Comments Thread For: Loeffler on Working With Haymon Side To Finalize Golovkin-Wade

[about.thousands]

It isn't about K2's willingness to work with Haymon, it's about HBO forking out the money to pay Haymon's fighters. Haymon constantly overpays his fighters for taking soft touches, so that opens his fighters to ask for much more to take on bigger challenges on other networks. An example I can think of is Daniel Jacobs, who is one of my favorite fighters today, but he got 1.5 million to fight Quillin. I assumed that he would want at least 2X that much to fight GGG on HBO and he might want that on PPV. That turned out to be true and there's no way Jacobs, who doesn't have an actual title, can logically ask for anywhere near 3 million. Golovkin has not even been paid 3 million yet, and he's actually been on PPV. So when you guys mention Lara and DeGale and all those other Haymon fighters as potential GGG opponents, keep in mind that they will not accept HBO money. Lara's manager has gone on record as saying that they want "significantly more than 1 million dollars" to fight GGG...Loeffler told me that HBO and K2 would never shell out anywhere near a mil to fight someone like Lara who sold 250 tickets in his last fight and has been fighting no names and going 12 rounds with them. He has nothing for GGG and he wants millions, that fight will never happen unless he takes the amount of money Monroe was willing to take (150k.) Wade is probably getting like 100-200k for this fight and that's more than he's worth.

HBO doesn't pay the fighters purses. I wish people would stop saying they do. They buy the fights. It's up to the promoters to pay the fighters. If HBO is offering $4 for fight and the fighters have a combined purse of $6 it's up to the promoter to come up with that extra $2. How do you think all of these other fights happen that aren't on TV?

[Fetta]

Great first step for boxing.

[mathed]

If he could fight Wade, why not Lara???

Lara isn't ranked at MW and GGG would get stripped of the IBF MW belt had he not fought Wade who is now his mandatory.

[IMDAZED]

This tells us nothing though. We don't care about these guys. We are interested in whether Haymon's top guys will show up on HBO and Wade showing up doesn't indicate anything.

You're right and you're also missing the point. Amir Khan, advised by Haymon, will be fighting Canelo in May (for better or worse). I'd say that's a fairly big name. Then you have this fight, nowhere near as interesting, but shows yet again Haymon working to secure a deal against a fighter with a different promoter and also contracted to HBO. That carries major implications down the road and should (although I doubt it will for the deaf, dumb and blind) force people to look at promoters like Main Events and ponder if perhaps it's them throwing roadblocks in front of potential fan-friendly fights.

[Raonic]

You're right and you're also missing the point. Amir Khan, advised by Haymon, will be fighting Canelo in May (for better or worse). I'd say that's a fairly big name. Then you have this fight, nowhere near as interesting, but shows yet again Haymon working to secure a deal against a fighter with a different promoter and also contracted to HBO. That carries major implications down the road and should (although I doubt it will for the deaf, dumb and blind) force people to look at promoters like Main Events and ponder if perhaps it's them throwing roadblocks in front of potential fan-friendly fights.

Haymon wasn't involved in negotiations for Khan with HBO or GBP. Him signing off on the fight (for a fee) is nowhere near the same as his typical negotiation patterns.

[Eastcoast]

K2 wants to make the Jacobs fight, hopefully the Wade fight is a bridge to make it. And if Alvarez and Saunders don't agree to fight Golovkin this year, then hopefully they're able to make the Lara fight as well.

However, like with Adonis Stevenson, Jacobs is a bigger name than someone like Wade. I think Showtime is very much against allowing Stevenson to fight on HBO as he's more a political chess piece between the networks. Jacobs could be in the same boat as Showtime wants to show his next fight in April (hearing Willie Monroe), and Espinoza is even involved with setting up the Quillin rematch.

Tom Loeffler on Gennady Golovkin vs. Danny Jacobs in NYC https://t.co/KTQk373DSw #boxing @TomLoeffler1 #GGGJacobs #NYC

— Douglass Fischer (@dougiefischer) February 10, 2016

[baddog]

Looks like Haymon and PBC are in need of generating some revenue instead of bleeding revenue

[Chollo Vista]

Lara isn't ranked at MW and GGG would get stripped of the IBF MW belt had he not fought Wade who is now his mandatory.

Why on God's green earth do you and your people keep using this asinine excuse???

GGG last fought last fought October 17th, 2015. The Wade fight was just announced a week or so ago.

GGG has had several lengthy gaps where he had no opponent and no mandatory, and was "searching" for opponents outside his mandatory yet names like Lara and Jacobs, who just happens to be the #2 MW, were never mentioned.

Please stop repeating these lies

[IMDAZED]

Haymon wasn't involved in negotiations for Khan with HBO or GBP. Him signing off on the fight (for a fee) is nowhere near the same as his typical negotiation patterns.

Well it appears they relayed everything to him and he signed off and on re: clauses that popped up. This was confirmed a few days ago. Plus, Khan was sure to thank him as someone who put the fight together. By the way, he's Khan's advisor. Gets paid a nice sum to do that. If you want to pretend he was paid not to do his job, so be it. I seek only rational discussion.

[OnePunch]

If he could fight Wade, why not Lara???

jeez you are worse than a 6 year old in the car who keeps going "are we there yet?????" over and over and over.

You've been told 50 times that Wade is a mando and Lara wasnt. Whatever school district let you pass the 5th grade ought to have their certifications examined VERY closely..........