Rate Peter Nelson's first 6 months of HBO Boxing Programming

[CaneloMaidana]

That's exactly what I am talking about. You and the rest of the people are giving fights 1,2,3 stars when there's MAYBE 1 better alternative.

And no, they should not make TC/Postol fight immediately. Those are #1 and #2 in the division. If they fight immediately, then what are they gonna do afterwards?

Regards to Ruenroeng, I didn't know about that, but honestly I do not blame Roman for not taking that fight, ever. I've read articles and watched that guy fight. He's ultra dirty and has a god awful reputation. Wasn't he like a convict or something?

Shabransky may be better than Barrera, he may not be. They're both unproven, undefeated and highly rated. Ward chose Barrera. If HBO started nitpicking between them and refused to televise the Barrera fight, the whole industry would go into chaos. They didn't show the Ward/Smith matchup. But refusing Barrera/Ward in favor of Shabransky/Ward? That's ******ed. Your problem is with Ward, not HBO.


This thread is based on assumption that HBO should refuse some of these fights. That's a ridiculous concept. If you want to try to fault someone, blame the fighters or the alphabet organizations.

HBO has final say.

[sicko]

INCOMPLETE!

I think it is too early to grade him especially before these fight even happens. But just looking at that Schedule I wouldn't give him a high grade but if those fights end up being better than most are expecting them to be then he will look like a genius

I think putting a younger guy in change is the right idea by HBO, hopefully he can bring some new ideas to the sport instead of the same boring bias agenda filled coverage.

[about.thousands]

That's exactly what I am talking about. You and the rest of the people are giving fights 1,2,3 stars when there's MAYBE 1 better alternative.

And no, they should not make TC/Postol fight immediately. Those are #1 and #2 in the division. If they fight immediately, then what are they gonna do afterwards?

Regards to Ruenroeng, I didn't know about that, but honestly I do not blame Roman for not taking that fight, ever. I've read articles and watched that guy fight. He's ultra dirty and has a god awful reputation. Wasn't he like a convict or something?

Shabransky may be better than Barrera, he may not be. They're both unproven, undefeated and highly rated. Ward chose Barrera. If HBO started nitpicking between them and refused to televise the Barrera fight, the whole industry would go into chaos. They didn't show the Ward/Smith matchup. But refusing Barrera/Ward in favor of Shabransky/Ward? That's ******ed. Your problem is with Ward, not HBO.


This thread is based on assumption that HBO should refuse some of these fights. That's a ridiculous concept. If you want to try to fault someone, blame the fighters or the alphabet organizations.

This thread is not a troll thread and it's not based on the assumption HBO should refuse some of these fights. It's based on the job being done so far by Peter Nelson after 6 months of fights scheduled. Showtime gets critiqued and PBC gets critiqued. The changing of the guard at HBO was big news and it's fair to assess what's happened so far. And I gave him 3 stars. The fights may not be the best but he's shown he's willing to lift the Haymon ban and that's good for boxing so in my opinion he's doing an decent job so far.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Gonzalez. I believe he wanted 1 million plus for the rematch... Estrada didn't care how much they got, as long as it was fairly split. Although he did admit in later interviews that a major purse would be nice too for economic reasons, he also added that he would love to rematch Roman to prove he can beat him.

This.........

[Rich2123]

INCOMPLETE!

I think it is too early to grade him especially before these fight even happens.

This.

Peter Nelson was named EVP of HBO Sports on December 1st. We are not even 2 1/2 months into his tenure. With the door at least somewhat open to Haymon/PBC fighters, we could really be surprised with what fights come up next. Or maybe not, but we'll see.

But to take your point, at the moment I'd give him 2 stars, I would actually give him a higher grade but I don't count the PPV fights because that's not included with my HBO subscription. He would get a higher grade if those fights were on regular HBO.

But let's give it time. There should be (at least) 4 or 5 more cards before summertime. Lets see how it shakes out.

[j0zef]

This thread is not a troll thread and it's not based on the assumption HBO should refuse some of these fights. It's based on the job being done so far by Peter Nelson after 6 months of fights scheduled. Showtime gets critiqued and PBC gets critiqued. The changing of the guard at HBO was big news and it's fair to assess what's happened so far. And I gave him 3 stars. The fights may not be the best but he's shown he's willing to lift the Haymon ban and that's good for boxing so in my opinion he's doing an decent job so far.

I went over the majority of the fights you graded. I've showed that for most of them, there was 1 or possibly 2 better alternatives. If a network starts rejecting 2nd or 3rd possible fight being made, you're gonna end up with a political cluster.

HBO is a network. It's not their job to tell fighters to get some balls and take the riskiest fight. Very often it would not even be in their best interests to get the 2 best fighting immediately. Their job is not to put on bad fights and to make money. They've accomplished their objective - the fights they put on are consistently against top10 or top20 contenders.

This is a also troll thread because Nelson has been on the job for a couple of months - it's wayyyy to early to grade anything. You've also conveniently put a may cut off on the fights. What about the HBO-mandated Ward/Kovalev fight? What about the Chocolatito/Estrada2 that's rumored for mid-year? What about Wlad-Fury rematch that may possibly break one of their careers? What about Canelo/Golovkin fight that should happen in Sept?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

3 stars..

Major names are staying active, the schedule has plenty of cards lined up..

None are super compelling matchups.

I would also assume hbo lands fury-wlad 2 whenever that gets finalized..

[HanzGruber]

Is HBO even trying to build anyone up besides Verdejo?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Is HBO even trying to build anyone up besides Verdejo?

Canelo is their only legit star..

Bradley has shown to be a solid B-side

They are still building

Kovolev
Ggg
Crawford


As for young guys comparable to Verdejo, I would say Gilberto ramierez..

[PRchamp]

It's time for HBO to tell Top Recycle and Golden Boy to bring them the fights the public demand if not turn them down. Let them try to find a place to show their fights, the truth is HBO needs to grow some balls and enough with these network contracts with fighters and promoters it hurts the sport by not being able to work with PBC. Boxing had become nothing but a pissing contest at this point. Enough is enough

Why can't HBO say no to Crawford/Lundy and tell Arum give us Crawford/Postol. Enough of the recycled fights and fighters it's time to move on from showing and showcasing fighters by using the likes of Pacquiao,Lundy,Abraham,Pascal,GGG's opponents,Vargas,Thompson. Too many mismatches no exciting fights.

Bradley-Pacquiao...Bradley wins another undeserving decision since Pacquiao is going to so call "retire" look for Arum to play HBO like dummies and give us Bradley-Crawford PPV hahaha **** out here.

Ward-Barrera....Barrera can win all 12 rounds and Ward will still get the nod who are we kidding you think HBO wants to drop the ball on a possible Koleav-Ward PPV fight

Canelo-Khan.....Golden Boy's golden goose is never losing a decision as long if he's the face of Mexican boxing, Khan can outbox him and beat him and still will lose a decision. That's why Canelo-Khan is a pointless PPV fight Khan either gets KO or loses a controversial decision.

Chocolalito I have no clue what HBO is going to do with him. They claim he's the #1 P4P fighter in boxing but he's fighting nothing but old faded fighters. How about he fights Rigo yeah they are different weight classes but Roman isn't a small fighter he ballons up in weight between fights and weighs more than 122 and 126 on fight night.

Overall HBO Boxing is in a downfall and they need to step it up.