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  • TrueBoxingFan23
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    #51
    Originally posted by petegrif
    As with all Ward's fights the referee is important. If he allows Ward to punch then dive in head down and clinch to avoid the counter it makes it very tough for the other guy. If the ref makes him stand off more, or warns him or deducts points (which he should but which Ward has not yet suffered) then it makes the fight ugly and points the opponent at a disadvantage.
    Bro you guys act like clinching isn't apart of boxing? It's not just for fighters you hate. Refs almost never penalize a fighter for that! The opponent should know what's coming and strategize for that!

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    • billeau2
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      #52


      SOG Holding court.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Weebler I
        I have barely seen Kovalev lose a round, never mind a fight.

        Much of Ward's touted skill is centred around his abilities on the inside, but chances are that won't be a factor against Kovalev.

        I disagree with that, Ward is likely the most well-rounded fighter in the game today.


        Originally posted by Weebler I
        It is possible, but Kovalev is coming down in weight too. This isn't a small LHW we're talking about.

        True, but that comment was not centered around KOvalev, it was centered around Ward. KOvalev won't be able to push Ward around, or walk through his punches, like many are saying.

        That fight will be a boxing match, and it won't be pretty.

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #54
          Originally posted by mathed
          A real living legend like Ward apparently is should not even need a tuneup.

          How long have you been following this sport ?

          You and daggum make a fine pair.

          Neither of you could keep it real if your life depended on it.

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            #55
            Originally posted by petegrif
            "A lot of people forget this and he won his gold medal outside of his natural weight class...he turned pro below 168 and fought at or near middleweight early in his career"

            I don't think this is correct.

            I think the confusion arises from the fact that the amateur and pro weight classes don't correspond directly and the difference between the 'one-off' pro fights and amateur tournaments that include multiple fights over several days.

            An amateur LHW weights up to 170 pounds and because there are several fights in the Olympics or Worlds this has to be pretty close to his real fighting weight because he can't repeatedly lose 10 pounds and put in on again during the course of a tournament. This is why it is fair to point out that Ward fought at LHW as an amateur but it isn't as if he fought at 175 weigh in then 185 on fight night.

            I don't believe that Ward ever fought 'at or near MW early in his career.' If anyone can show me evidence of this I'm listening but I've never seen any evidence of it. Ward is a big SMW who is moving up. He moved from 170 fighting weight to win his Olympic Gold and never fought at 160, he went straight to 168 which as by far the most natural move for hi.

            Well, that was DUMB assumption.

            It would have been real easy for you to check that.

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              #56
              Originally posted by nacho daddy
              yea cause east europeans banned here for 50 years is why so many ****** warriors are on a rapidly fading list. being you got a black face and pointed out the list makes you big time racist like dam newton the "best ever seen" QB

              You really do post some dumb ****.

              Is that your 4th ****** consecutive post ?

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                #57
                Originally posted by petegrif
                "If i recall he started his career at around 160 then he moved up after about 5 fight"

                No. The lightest he fought was 165.5 as a SMW in his first fight against chris molina

                Totally clueless.

                I would help you, but nah.....

                He had a number of fights at 160.

                keep trying ^^

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by billeau2

                  This is a man who keeps it real..... 100% !!

                  Very, very, refreshing.

                  I am white, and I think that boxers make terrible role models..... if you want your kid to look up to a fighter instead of a doctor or a teacher, I think you need to review your priorities.

                  In saying that..... imho, Andre Ward and Shawn Porter are two of the most outstanding young sportsmen on the planet today.

                  Porter is not on Wards level, that's not what I meant...... I mean that both of those guys are fine outstanding young men, and a credit to their family/race. Very impressed with the way Porter carries himself.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    This is a man who keeps it real..... 100% !!

                    Very, very, refreshing.

                    I am white, and I think that boxers make terrible role models..... if you want your kid to look up to a fighter instead of a doctor or a teacher, I think you need to review your priorities.

                    In saying that..... imho, Andre Ward and Shawn Porter are two of the most outstanding young sportsmen on the planet today.

                    Porter is not on Wards level, that's not what I meant...... I mean that both of those guys are fine outstanding young men, and a credit to their family/race. Very impressed with the way Porter carries himself.
                    yes most athletes imo. Agreed. Priorities indeed.

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                      #60
                      Dear Andrey,

                      How dare you...such the provincial, always fighting in Oakland, that black metropolis with crime, overbuilt areas, urban decay....When will you become a more cultured sportsman like your buddy Floyd? and fight in las Vegas, that Black metropolis with crime, overbuilt, water vamping areas and urban decay?

                      Signed

                      A hater

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