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  • #71
    Originally posted by Virgil Caine View Post
    Do you watch boxing?

    Did you see the fight?

    Spilka was outboxing him.

    You must have been blinded by Wilder's jizz in your eyes.
    He wasnt outboxing ****. He barely landed a couple of stiff jabs and it was a close fight before the KO , nobody was getting outboxed.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
      But apparently Wilder doesn't want it lol, lets wait and see what happens we will learn who was ducking who but as things stand it was AP fault that it never happened January.
      Povetkin sustained a cut, which wouldn't allow him to train properly for January. That much is well documented.

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      • #73
        I gotta side with my fellow Wilder fans here. I think my man does a number on Povetkin and shocks people yet again. Povetkin's a great fighter, vicious combinations, tough as hell, deep, deep amateur background. But he's also small, slow of feet, and very hittable. He's at a tremendous physical disadvantage and will need to fight out of his skin to get to Wilder. Wilder on the other hand only has to keep him at arm's length and strafe him with stiff jabs and right hands and there's very little Povetkin can do about it. Wilder may have looked chitty in his last few fights, but he was far from fighting at his best. The Stiverne fight showed he can step it up when he has to and fight a disciplined smart fight utilising the tools he possesses to the fullest of his abilities. Against Povetkin I expect a similar level of concentration. Far from being scared I think he'll relish the opportunity to put a beatdown on the Russian and prove his doubters wrong. Povetkin is in for a rude awakening.

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        • #74
          Where is this idea of Povetkin being small coming from?

          Not everyone needs to be over 6'5.

          Povetkin is a career heavyweight, who won the gold at superheavyweight (by contrast, Wilder's bronze was at 201).

          Wilder debuted at 207 pounds, and their recent weights have been pretty similar.

          6'2 and mid-220s is a solid heavyweight.

          Don't forget, Mike Tyson is 5'10.

          Bunch of ignoramuses in here.

          I can't wait for Wilder to be put away so we can be free of all his fanboys.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Virgil Caine View Post
            Where is this idea of Povetkin being small coming from?

            Not everyone needs to be over 6'5.

            Povetkin is a career heavyweight, who won the gold at superheavyweight (by contrast, Wilder's bronze was at 201).

            Wilder debuted at 207 pounds, and their recent weights have been pretty similar.

            6'2 and mid-220s is a solid heavyweight.

            Don't forget, Mike Tyson is 5'10.

            Bunch of ignoramuses in here.

            I can't wait for Wilder to be put away so we can be free of all his fanboys.
            He's no midget, but he's at a substantial height disadvantage against the likes of Wilder, Wlad, Fury etc. That's what people mean by small. No one said he wasn't a legitimate heavyweight.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Beyonce Bomber View Post
              He's no midget, but he's at a substantial height disadvantage against the likes of Wilder, Wlad, Fury etc. That's what people mean by small. No one said he wasn't a legitimate heavyweight.
              Actually someone in this thread did call him a blown up cruiserweight.

              Height is only an advantage if you know how to use it properly. On the inside it can become a disadvantage.

              I have little doubt Povetkin will be able to close the distance and crack Wilder on the jaw.

              Also, some tall guys can fight inside. Fury is one such example.

              I have serious doubts that Wilder has any kind of inside game.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by BlackSoul View Post
                povetkin has NOWHERE near the footwork of spilka and spilka got alot of that from ronnie shields AND he was a SOUTHPAW and nowhere near the head movement that spilka has yall are overrating povetkin
                The problem is that Szpilkas style takes a lot out of a heavyweight, he has a middleweight style that he cant keep up long enough. Hes a 6 round fighter with that style, after that he becomes a mutch more stationary target and the problem is he isnt the biggest puncher so he has a hard time to stop strong opponents early. And when he gasses out in the second half of a fight he gets stopped.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
                  Hopefully a contract is signed this month. Biggest fight in boxing for me. Put it in primetime on CBS, NBC, or FOX.
                  Love the free TV part. Glad to know your not hard to please.

                  Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth View Post
                  All he needs to do? Gonna take a lot more then that guy. Povetkin is much smarter then these last fill ins. Wilder will actually be tested, mentally and physically.
                  No question chief, this should answer a ton of questions about Deontay Wilder. He hasn't fought anyone like this guy before.

                  So I guess AP's coming forward in this fight, which I see as ok for Wilder. I'm thinking his plan should include establishing his long range and trying to catch Povetkin coming in while AP's throwing one of his combos. Wilder really showed great timing with the right hand that spattered Szpika. I would spend a lot of time training for that, it's his money punch. He could try and land one of those.

                  AP just has to do what he does. He throws good and fast combos and he moves forward quick. He'll probably reach Wilder's chin at some point, but he's got a ton of ground to cover to get there and that's his danger zone!

                  I love this fight. There both riding knockout streaks. I like both fighters but I think Wilder's naturally more gifted physique and length give him the win.

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                  • #79
                    Povetkin gonna lose in a beatdown by a brotha no surprise american runs boxing

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Virgil Caine View Post
                      Actually someone in this thread did call him a blown up cruiserweight.

                      Height is only an advantage if you know how to use it properly. On the inside it can become a disadvantage.

                      I have little doubt Povetkin will be able to close the distance and crack Wilder on the jaw.
                      Well, whoever said that was an idiot. Povetkin's always been a solidly built dude, more so than Wilder actually, who is naturally quite lean. But he is short, and that has proven to be a liability for him in the past. That wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing in the world if he had fast feet and good head movement, but he doesn't. He's an upright meat and potatoes guy who comes in on straight lines, and while he isn't totally useless at closing distance he often leaves himself open to jabs and right hands while doing so.

                      Look at his last fight with Wach. Wach actually troubled him at distance in the early rounds, and even cracked Povetkin on the jaw with his slow ass right hand. That was a major question mark for me who was previously leaning towards Povetkin to take Deontay out. It reminded me of past fights where Povetkin looked very hittable, namely the Chambers fight and the Marco Huck fight. Fair enough, Chambers is a fast and fluid puncher who's able to catch most fighters, but Huck's as crude as a caveman, and he nearly knocked Povetkin out and cracked him with some monstrous punches. Takam also caught him plenty.

                      Povetkin's looked in brutal form lately, and I think it's leading some people to forget just how vulnerable and average looking he can be at times. I still see those same weaknesses present in him now, only hidden by his much improved offence which keeps fighters on the backfoot trying to cope with his combinations.

                      Originally posted by Virgil Caine View Post
                      Also, some tall guys can fight inside. Fury is one such example.

                      I have serious doubts that Wilder has any kind of inside game.
                      Wilder can also fight on the inside, though it's not his preferred range. Watch the Duhaupas fight for proof. Of course he's nowhere near the inside fighter of Povetkin, and I doubt he'd willingly want to close distance with Sasha, but it's an option for him if he needs it. Can Povetkin fight on the outside? I haven't seen much evidence of him being able to do so. Even a guy as slow as Wach was able to keep him at range for large portions of their fight using his basic jab and one two and Povetkin's much feared combinations were reduced to single shots and lunges by his inability to close to his preferred distance.

                      That's the thing with Povetkin. He looks brutal against guys his own height range whom he can close with, but against taller fighters who force him to work his way in he looks a lot more vulnerable.

                      He can still take Deontay out, I won't argue with you there, but there are certain stylistic and physical advantages favouring Wilder that we'd all be fools to overlook.
                      Last edited by Fury4daWIN; 02-07-2016, 02:19 PM.

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