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  • #41
    Originally posted by deanrw View Post
    1.2 million is not good, but not completely embarrassing. I guess for what it was it did OK.

    If you compare it to ratings from a few years ago though, today's boxing ratings are still very low.
    Didn't Hauser write that 1.6 million was the lowest HBO WCB broadcast ever almost 10 years ago?

    Now boxing fans celebrate less than that?

    Why is that?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
      Glaser was the one that said 97k. He was also saying 380k for Floyd's farewell, 600k for Canelo Cotto etc. But I know you're ******ed so won't be able to draw any conclusions
      Can't have it both ways.

      If you're going to discredit Glaser's call on the Golovkin-Lemieux PPV, you can't then turn around and argue that Glaser was right on the Mayweather call. No different then when everyone trashed Stephen Espinoza(EVP, Showtime and point-person for boxing) when he said that Mayweather-Guerrero barely did 1m, yet took the word of Tom Loeffler (K2, secondhand access to the PPV numbers) when he stated that Golovkin-Lemieux did 150k (notice how no one at HBO stated that Golovkin-Lemieux did 150k).

      a bit of consistency in thought never hurts.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        You keep giving 97k as the PPV number for GGG/Lemieux, even though you know it was an estimated figure that turned out to be wrong.

        That makes me mistrust everything else you say.
        how did it turn out to be wrong? they always inflate the numbers i think he was right with ggg and mayweather berto. theres a reason hbo didnt release the numbers if it was what they said they would have no reason not to but chances are the 97k was right. Im pretty sure glazer has never been wrong when a network actually releases the official numbers. Its jsut were so used to hearing inflated numbers that when we hear 350k for mayweather or 97k for ggg it sounds weird i think its just ggg fans want to believe hes the biggest star in boxing otherwise i dont see why people even care the only reason people gave a **** in first place was because of mayweather and pac and who deserved splits but not that they have fought who gives a **** if a ppv is a bust or not
        Last edited by Cinci Champ; 02-02-2016, 02:17 PM.

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        • #44
          Solid Ratings even for a match up that really did not have the big Buzz because it was looked at as a mismatch by most but they still turned out a good rating

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
            Can't have it both ways.

            If you're going to discredit Glaser's call on the Golovkin-Lemieux PPV, you can't then turn around and argue that Glaser was right on the Mayweather call. No different then when everyone trashed Stephen Espinoza(EVP, Showtime and point-person for boxing) when he said that Mayweather-Guerrero barely did 1m, yet took the word of Tom Loeffler (K2, secondhand access to the PPV numbers) when he stated that Golovkin-Lemieux did 150k (notice how no one at HBO stated that Golovkin-Lemieux did 150k).

            a bit of consistency in thought never hurts.
            ESPN posted statements from Loeffler and Mark Taffet, who runs HBO PPV.

            http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-per-view-buys

            The actual 150k figure was stated by Loeffler, with Taffet talking about the income from the fight as a whole.

            If you want to attach significance to that, go ahead, but I certainly see it as more credible than a guesstimate by a third person before the figures were released.
            Last edited by kafkod; 02-02-2016, 02:36 PM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by kafkod View Post
              ESPN posted statements from Loeffler and Mark Taffet, who runs HBO PPV.

              http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-per-view-buys

              The actual 150k figure was stated by Loeffler, with Taffet talking about the income from the fight as a whole.

              If you want to attach significance to that, go ahead, but I certainly see it as more credible than a guesstimate by a third person before the figures were released.
              Taffet is supposed to be the HBO guy who knows the PPV numbers, yet he went nowhere near standing by Loeffler's number, instead choosing to try and talk about how well the event did against heavy competition from playoff baseball.

              It's just rich that the number that Loeffler decided to blurt seemed to fall exactly in line with what he said was needed to break even.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                Sergey Kovalev began his 2016 campaign in the same manner in which he kicked off 2015 – with a stoppage win over Jean Pascal at the Bell Centre in Montreal, Canada. The event fittingly produced nearly identical ratings results, as the sequel slightly outperformed the original in home viewership.

                An average of 1.179 million viewers tuned in for Kovalev’s one-sided 7th round beatdown of Pascal in a three-belt light heavyweight fight that topped the 2016 season premiere of HBO World Championship Boxing. The event peaked at 1.269 million viewers.
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                Does same ratings that Khan did versus Algieri, on Friday Night, On Spike TV, a channel that has lower viewership than HBO, and very few people even know where it falls in the tv epg guide. No wonder HBO wanted Khan for Canelo!!!

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  Taffet is supposed to be the HBO guy who knows the PPV numbers, yet he went nowhere near standing by Loeffler's number, instead choosing to try and talk about how well the event did against heavy competition from playoff baseball.

                  It's just rich that the number that Loeffler decided to blurt seemed to fall exactly in line with what he said was needed to break even.
                  The reason GGG/Lemieux was PPV was to cover the fighters purses. Lemieux was paid $1.5 million, far more than any of GGGs previous opponents. GGG earned his highest ever purse too.

                  If the fight didn't break even, K2 would never have offered BJS TWICE what Lemieux was paid to try and get him next. Think about it.

                  I know you and your buddies don't want to admit it, but GGG/Lemieux was definitely not a financial flop.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    The reason GGG/Lemieux was PPV was to cover the fighters purses. Lemieux was paid $1.5 million, far more than any of GGGs previous opponents. GGG earned his highest ever purse too.

                    If the fight didn't break even, K2 would never have offered BJS TWICE what Lemieux was paid to try and get him next. Think about it.

                    I know you and your buddies don't want to admit it, but GGG/Lemieux was definitely not a financial flop.
                    K2 offered Billy Joe Saunders $3m because fighting a Britsh champion in the UK is going to deliver far more money into the pot than Lemieux was able to bring with himself to New York. Saunders-EubankJr II is a $10m fight, for ****'s sake.

                    don't be dumb.

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                    • #50
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                      Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                      K2 offered Billy Joe Saunders $3m because fighting a Britsh champion in the UK is going to deliver far more money into the pot than Lemieux was able to bring with himself to New York. Saunders-EubankJr II is a $10m fight, for ****'s sake.

                      don't be dumb.


                      Saunders Eubank Jr would be nowhere near a $10 million fight right now. If it was, they'd be falling over each other to make it happen, instead of giving it the cold shoulder.

                      Saunders would not make $3 million fighting Eubank Jr. They'd be doing very well to share that amount of money between them, if it happened in April.
                      Last edited by kafkod; 02-02-2016, 10:31 PM.

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