Waddell investment down to the last 82M? OUT of (521M)

[Mitchell Kane]

The fight that was nearest in time frame to Alexander-Khan was Taylor-Broner which avg. 852k with a 1 million peak.

Apples to Apples

What HBO fight was it up against?

[Mitchell Kane]

exactly, the Showtime ratings have been gradually declining over the past year. It's not fair to compare a fight from October 2015 to December 2016.

Makes as much sense as comparing PBC numbers on Spike and NBC.

[bigdunny1]

not sure how credible those tweets are but if Eastcoast is correct
Then things are so bad this quickly that PBC is going to try and get their investors to double down and throw more money into a sinking ship and now Haymon might be forced to sell off and release fighters in his stable? And how can one source say NBC is coming back but only 6 fights but FOX will be the only exclusive network? That makes no sense somebody has be wrong because those 2 reports conflict with each other. Either way this is getting good. Not even a full year in and already Haymon forced to either scale down and turn this into a friday night fights type situation because right now PBC is too expensive even though idiots debated that it didn't matter but here more reports that he can't afford fights like Thurman vs Porter or Jacobs vs Quillin and people scream we want better matchups if this is true then all those fights are going strictly to Showtime and not free TV and he will be filling out PBC cards with cheap B and C class fighters. Unless he forces all his A class fighters to take major pay cuts good luck with that. Wow how did it all turn bad this fast LMAO

[Mitchell Kane]

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/st...999049729?s=09

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@T_one_hundred greysymphony steveucnlive I don't know. But PBC having trouble matching Khan. This isn't so bad for them.


Dan Rafael
7m7 minutes ago
Dan Rafael @danrafaelespn
The Haymon spin from his misinformation officer about his involvement in #CaneloKhan is hilarious. Get outta here with that nonsense

[Eastcoast]

not sure how credible those tweets are but if Eastcoast is correct
Then things are so bad this quickly that PBC is going to try and get their investors to double down and throw more money into a sinking ship and now Haymon might be forced to sell off and release fighters in his stable? And how can one source say NBC is coming back but only 6 fights but FOX will be the only exclusive network? That makes no sense somebody has be wrong because those 2 reports conflict with each other. Either way this is getting good. Not even a full year in and already Haymon forced to either scale down and turn this into a friday night fights type situation because right now PBC is too expensive even though idiots debated that but here more reports that he can't afford fights like Thurman vs Porter or Jacobs vs Quillin and people scream we want better matchups if this is true then all those fights are going strictly to Showtime and not free TV and he will be filling out PBC cards with cheap B and C class fighters. Unless he forces all his A class fighters to take major pay cuts good luck with that. Wow how did it all turn bad this fast LMAO

The PBC time buys are good for 2016, so they're going to get used. A potential Fox deal would probably be in 2017. This is how the PBC should've started, looking to build on fewer networks with regular scheduled fights and not so many scrub fighters.

[Eastcoast]

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@T_one_hundred greysymphony steveucnlive I don't know. But PBC having trouble matching Khan. This isn't so bad for them.


Dan Rafael
7m7 minutes ago
Dan Rafael @danrafaelespn
The Haymon spin from his misinformation officer about his involvement in #CaneloKhan is hilarious. Get outta here with that nonsense

Said Tim Smith, Vice President of Communications for Haymon Boxing: “Al was involved in the process all the way through with Khan’s people."

— Mike Coppinger (@MikeCoppinger) February 2, 2016

The Haymon spin from his misinformation officer about his involvement in #CaneloKhan is hilarious. Get outta here with that nonsense.

— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) February 2, 2016

Mike Coppinger is a tool.

[bigdunny1]

The PBC time buys are good for 2016, so they're going to get used. A potential Fox deal would probably be in 2017. This is how the PBC should've started, looking to build on fewer networks with regular scheduled fights and not so many scrub fighters.

Yup if they started smaller could of built slowly, lowered costs which gives you more time to promote each event and limit the negative losses. Now they might be too late for a shift like this to matter because they are clearly hundreds of millions in the red and need a miracle to break even let alone get a return on their investment for Waddell & Reed. And it's never good when you burn through investment money this fast and then force to ask them to double down and put some more money in this quickly. But if they have to let numerous fighters out their contracts and force others to take pay cuts that will have a domino effect on what fighters stay with Haymon or future fighters that sign to him. For example we have not heard any of the young talent being signed up to Haymon not like we saw last year to 2 years. While for example Golden Boy has in about 1-2 weeks locked up numerous blue chip prospects, former Olympians, top boxing amateurs. Guys they likely would of been outbid by Haymon for. This makes sense if the money is getting dry. But what long term effects if a mass amount of fighters start leaving to rival promoters.

[aldo5408]

Insiders expect to be saved by a Fox deal, which they hope will inspire W&R to double down (not with another $500M but some form of bridge).

— Boxing Leaks (@BoxingLeaks) February 2, 2016

Discussion w/Fox about license fee for 24+ events. PBC then exclusive to Fox. Would scale back vision but show progress to investors.

— Boxing Leaks (@BoxingLeaks) February 2, 2016

Expect Haymon roster to be pared down. Lower-end fighters to be released from Haymon contract. This is an insider confirmed reshuffle step.

— Boxing Leaks (@BoxingLeaks) February 2, 2016

Thanks for your info/keeping the conversation going
Green k sent

[Fetta]

Insiders expect to be saved by a Fox deal, which they hope will inspire W&R to double down (not with another $500M but some form of bridge).

— Boxing Leaks (@BoxingLeaks) February 2, 2016

Discussion w/Fox about license fee for 24+ events. PBC then exclusive to Fox. Would scale back vision but show progress to investors.

— Boxing Leaks (@BoxingLeaks) February 2, 2016

Expect Haymon roster to be pared down. Lower-end fighters to be released from Haymon contract. This is an insider confirmed reshuffle step.

— Boxing Leaks (@BoxingLeaks) February 2, 2016

Just saww this. Awesome that boxing may get a deal on FOX.

[bigdunny1]

Dan is on a roll today. Just tweeted

Dan Rafael

Although AmirKingKhan has not signed with GoldenBoyBoxing beyond the Canelo fight I am told they are talking about a longer term deal.

It seems almost impossible to think Khan and Haymon will work together again after this. Khan just gave a major F U to Haymon and signed to fight with his mortal enemies who are suing him for 300mil and trying to shut PBC down on the Network he bans his fighters from fighting on. And now reports that Khan is talking with Golden Boy to sign long term.