What is more valuable in a clean street fight: good wrestling or good boxing?(pick 1)

[Furn]

Depends

If the wrestler can get on the top ropes then it's all over.

[Boxing@2016]

Street Fights

In street fights wrestling factor is important because there is no hard limitation in street fight like in boxing ring. So your opponent can use wrestling option well

[Tails]

The better street fighter is going to win and that is not determined by one's discipline. It is something that sometimes an individual is simply good at. Boxing, wrestling, mma, or any other self defense does not accurately simulates a street fight because there is way too many variables.That said I do believe boxing is the best base to have even in it's basic fundamentals when going against disadvantages such as height & weight from what I've seen firsthand.

People think that the way we fight in the ring is the same way we fight in the street which is simply not true. The desire to pace yourself to go rounds isn't there so you are going to be going 100% from the get go meaning everything you throw is going to have intent to hurt. The speed advantage that you often don't have the comfort of having when going against an equally skilled person on the feet is a relief and you are going to take full advantage of it (people don't realize how quick the reflexes & movement are of a really good boxer compared to the average discipline). Also most people regardless of what they have been taught almost inherently always decide to throw a punch in a street fight which if they don't move their head when they throw (which most don't) than they are easy to counter or catch in an exchange. And if someone does decide to try and take you down and somehow stumble depending on the environment or if they get knocked down or off balance from a shot than you best believe we are going to take the free kick to the head if it is there. We are more than willing to throw other stuff besides punches which I don't know why people would think that anyone would intentionally limit themselves to one thing. I've seen this one guy that goes to the boxing gym intentionally headbutt someone in a street fight and damn near lay em out cold.

But back to the first point the better street fighter is going to win and no one can point to one thing and hands down determine that this person trains this so this person can beat this person that trains this. Heck I've seen people that have had no formal training whoop people's ass that have done boxing and wrestling.

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wrestling is more useful for real life combat

knowing how to take someone to the ground and remain on top of them is the most basic human combat skill i can think of, its how you control them, its how everything from dogs to chimps establish dominance

but when's the last time you actually saw a to-the-death barehanded streetfight?

most street fights are drunks or teenagers circling each other and they call if off as soon as one gets hurt so i guess knowing basic boxing would make you a god

wrestling would be seen as "cheating"

[LouIE G]

If a wrestler can actually be successful and get their hands on a boxer then it's very possible that a wrestler can beat a Boxer, now that wrestler would have to be very fast and close at shooting on the Boxer that way his wrestling isn't compromised and give the Boxer an opening to land an uppercut on the Wrestler. Timing would be the Key factor in the outcome of who would win.

[STEELHEAD]

the guys that are saying good boxing are showing their dimwitted colors.
ask any boxer thats not full of himself.

[Willy Wanker]

Just carry a bunch of cash on you, pay off your attacker. #BetaWay

I'm too broke for all that. I just take my beatings like a man.

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Just carry a bunch of cash on you, pay off your attacker. #BetaWay

that can actually start fights, this guy confronted me one time and he was so dirty looking and so hard to understand i thought he was a hobo and handed him a dollar, it didn't really diffuse the situation

[onetwopunch]

I would say wrestling is more important, because most of the time your getting bum rushed, so you need to know how to grapple/wrestle. Even if your picking the guy apart with boxing skill he can always go in and try to slam or take you down. This is when knowing how to wrestle will benefit you.

[BennyST]

wrestling is more useful for real life combat

knowing how to take someone to the ground and remain on top of them is the most basic human combat skill i can think of, its how you control them, its how everything from dogs to chimps establish dominance

but when's the last time you actually saw a to-the-death barehanded streetfight?

most street fights are drunks or teenagers circling each other and they call if off as soon as one gets hurt so i guess knowing basic boxing would make you a god

wrestling would be seen as "cheating"

Yep, absolutely. That, and the fact that 95% of 'street fights' start out with one or both guys pushing the other and swearing. You can go for the hail mary punch and hope you land it clean and KO the guy, or you can take the initiative and take him down and you've got full complete control from there on. If you don't land the good punch, you end up trading, or wrestling because it's more likely in that instance that the person is simply going to grab you rather than engage in a stand up war. Again, we come back to wrestling. Street fights nearly always start or end up with some form of wrestling.

Ask any bouncer and they'll all say the same thing. Most street fights start with pushing and swearing at each other, then it either goes straight into a wrestling, scrappy, shirt grabbing fight or a brief punch on ensues with one or two mostly wild punches being thrown, most often with both guys half grabbing the other guy with their free hand anyway and the guy that is losing or can't punch will grab and wrestle, and it becomes a scrappy, flaily, wrestling, shirt grabbing/swinging match with some vague punches being thrown here and there.

It nearly always comes back to good wrestling gives you the best control in by far the most situations.

If a wrestler can actually be successful and get their hands on a boxer then it's very possible that a wrestler can beat a Boxer, now that wrestler would have to be very fast and close at shooting on the Boxer that way his wrestling isn't compromised and give the Boxer an opening to land an uppercut on the Wrestler. Timing would be the Key factor in the outcome of who would win.

Along with the "just step back and KHTFO on the way in" I think this is probably the biggest misnomer. For a boxer to punch you, he has to be in close enough that you can also grab him. I've often seen people talk as if the boxer can land his shots as long as he stays out of range of the guy trying to grab him. That just means he can't land any punches either though.

If you are close enough to punch, you are also close enough to grab.

Second, it's nearly impossible to land an uppercut hard enough to do damage on someone with training that's shooting in on you. Shooting in on someone puts your head at waist level and to land a good uppercut on someone that low is nearly impossible. Uppercuts don't work nearly as well, if at all, as people would imagine they do in that situation. Simple punch down to the back of the head is the much better option though it really hurts your hand and could easily break it, or try hard to keep your balance when they first grab you (spread your legs and scoot your hips back) and throw elbows to the back of the head/neck area hard and fast.