What is more valuable in a clean street fight: good wrestling or good boxing?(pick 1)

[Doctor_Tenma]

It's all circumstantial and it's always someone sporting a Maidana avatar making these threads

[SplitSecond]

There's a couple of videos of boxers taking out 2+ people, keeping their distance with footwork and wacking fools who step into their zone. I have yet to see a wrestler able to handle such a thing, a wrestler isn't even an MMA fighter, he's just a hugger.

And if Lesnar was any indication, they sht themselves in the face of punches(the tendency is to look away).

[Redd Foxx]

I wish the forum had a section for all the idiots who have never been in a fight but love talking about it to discuss hypothetical street fights, superman vs batman, etc.

[BennyST]

Because this is a boxing site, most people will say boxing, but it's undoubtedly wrestling. 100%. The large majority of street fights start, become or end in a shirt grabbing/pulling match with bad punches being swung.

It's very, very rare for a standard street fight to be a stand up boxing match. I'd say 5 or 10% max.

Like it or not, wrestling is where street fights go most often and if you've got good wrestling you're going to win easily. Even if the guy can punch, all you have to do is slide in and grab their top and they're done. Morons who have never had experience seem to imagine this utterly absurd scenario of 'well, if someone tries to grab I'll just step back and uppercut him to death or KHTFO on the way in' as if they're Mayweather or something. ****ing idiots. Or they'll bring up some random video where they've seen a guy who can fight knocking out some uncoordinated guys walking in at them, who can't box, wrestle or do anything. That's the exception, not the rule.

It is so easy if you can wrestle to get close to someone, even with good boxing experience, and grab them without getting hurt by punches. 99% of the time, if you bum rush someone in a street fight they're going to miss their first punch anyway or it'll be completely harmless, and then you're already in too close and have a hold of them.

[Joe Beamish]

Generally boxing. But lots of exceptions...and in a real fight you never know. I'm sure a great wrestler would usually beat a crappy boxer of the same size.

A modest amount of boxing experience -- the ability to guard yourself and throw a couple punches, tested in sparring -- is invaluable in a fight. I always think boxing is the only martial art in which you can gain a few basics, practice, and make use of them. Not to say boxing is easy by any means. But the basics are graspable and usable in a way I haven't seen in wrestling.

And nothing ends a fight quicker than a strike. Most the time. Not always.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

my throwaway is.

[betmen]

Pffft... this topic again

9 out of 10 MMA fighters will win vs pure boxers in street fight or in the ring. just accept it!

boxing is more sport than martial art

[BennyST]

There's a couple of videos of boxers taking out 2+ people, keeping their distance with footwork and wacking fools who step into their zone. I have yet to see a wrestler able to handle such a thing, a wrestler isn't even an MMA fighter, he's just a hugger.

And if Lesnar was any indication, they sht themselves in the face of punches(the tendency is to look away).

Well, no offence Split, but this just proved my point.

There's always someone who brings up this scenario of a guy who can fight taking out one or more guys who can't and thinking that somehow proves their point. There is a massive difference between knowing how to wrestle and thus knowing how to get in on someone to a couple of random guys who've probably never fought in their lives walking at someone with their hands down, chins up and having no idea what they're doing and thus getting punched.

That's not wrestling vs boxing. That's experienced fighter vs random person who has no experience with anything.

None of what you just said makes the slightest bit of sense.

Lesnar? You mean the former UFC heavyweight champ fighting other professional fighters? What's this got to do with street fights? It still kind of disproves your own point though, because Lesnar became the UFC champ with some of the worst stand up in the UFC and did it all with wrestling and GNP.

[gauze]

one time i powerbombed this dude and broke his spine. his family tried to sue me so i shoved the subpoena down their throats and german suplexed all of them to hell. i heard he boxed in little league. take that for whatever it's worth.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Both are equally important.