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  • Originally posted by original zero View Post
    the orgs rank the guys interested in fighting for their org.

    povetkin is the WBC mandatory, so why would the WBO give him a high ranking?

    klitschko just lost and made no effort whatsoever to try to win. how high do you want him ranked?
    Shouldn't they rank them on their abilities and resumes. That if what they are ment for. It'd not ment to be a popularity contest

    So because povetkin is ranked by WBC, the wbo shouldnt rank him high? What kind of school yard rubbish is that

    So 11 years of being and unbeaten world champion isn't worth a higher ranking than beat Jason Bergman in 8 rounds

    The rankings should reflect the best

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    • You will rarely see an org give a top ranking to a fighter they know is not interested in fighting for their title.

      Povetkin is a WBC fighter and is not available to fight for the WBO title, so the WBO is not going to put him in a mandatory position when they know he's going to turn it down.

      A decade long undefeated streak will probably result in a high ranking after a loss, but not necessarily the #1 ranking. Klitschko is already contracted anyway for a voluntary defense, so he's not seeking out the mandatory position.

      Orgs are not going to put fighters in the mandatory position that they know don't want the position.

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      • Originally posted by original zero View Post
        Klitschko & Fury agreed to face Glazkov next, so they were given adequate time and allowed to fight each other.

        But they lied to the IBF and then tricked the IBF by hiding their rematch clause. They left the IBF with no choice.

        You say the IBF "only had to wait," but Glazkov's position was binding and he would have sought a court injunction. You can write "rules doe" all you want, but this scenario was taking place in reality, not your fantasy land. So laws, rules, contracts, agreements and rights can't be dismissed by writing "doe."

        You've lied again by claiming Martin was installed as champion. 100% false. He was not awarded anything. He was the highest AVAILABLE contender and agreed to face the mandatory.

        He beat the mandatory fair & square. Therefore, he is the champion of the IBF. An org you believe is 2nd rate, so you shouldn't even care who their champion is. Which makes your position wildly inconsistent.

        You keep calling me a kid, but I'm the only one presenting a logical argument. I'm a grown man with nearly 20 years experience in the combat sports industry. This is how I make my living. I can't just write "doe" and ignore all facts, logic and reason

        I live in the real world. You live in a fantasy land. Time and time again, I calmly explain why your positions are faulty, which is why you continue to throw temper tantrums and hurl insults.

        If you believe I am an idiot: prove it. You can't. There is nothing in the rules or in the law that would have allowed the IBF to do what you're suggesting.

        Had the IBF followed your advice, US courts would have spanked them hard. You continue to advocate a course of action that the IBF had no way of carrying out.

        But maybe is you write "doe" enough times we can pretend that laws, rules, courts, contracts, agreements, rights, lawsuits, etc don't exist.

        BOTTOM LINE:

        FACT: Fury is the best heavyweight on the planet
        FACT: The IBF have installed an untested prospect as champion

        Just so long as you're happy with that kid

        " rules doe "

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        • Originally posted by Teddy05 View Post
          I think I might have to change my vote to the WBO. In what universe are Joseph Parker and Anthony Joshua the number 1 and 2 contenders to the world title. Having 2 guys with no top 30 names on their resumes ahead of Wladimir Klitschko and Alexander Povetkin?

          Povetkin has beaten Charr, Takam, Perez and Wach all by KO and he's only ranked 4th??

          This is a joke

          At least the WBO don't have some silly **** pom-pom waving for them

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          • Originally posted by original zero View Post
            the orgs rank the guys interested in fighting for their org.

            povetkin is the WBC mandatory, so why would the WBO give him a high ranking?

            klitschko just lost and made no effort whatsoever to try to win. how high do you want him ranked?
            The disinterest in fighting for certain belts is fault of the sanctioning bodies, not the fighters, because they are the ones who refuse to work together and create a standard across the board.

            And yes, just because a fighter doesn't want to fight for your title doesn't mean you don't recognize their standing on a world leve.

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            • Well not only does our friend "About Time" not like rules, he also doesn't like facts or logic.

              He attempts to post two "facts," but the first one is clearly an opinion and the second one is clearly false.

              Should be very clear between the personal insults and page after page of false information that "About Time" is nothing more than a petulant child.

              The IBF did not install anyone as champion. The #1 contender fought the highest ranked available contender for the vacant title and lost.

              "About Time" continues to refuse to explain why he found it so upsetting for Charles Martin to be ranked #4 by the IBF when the WBO actually had him ranked #1.

              Facts doe. Rules doe. Logic doe. We can just write doe after anything and ignore all reality.

              14 pages in, and the following remains indisputable fact:

              The IBF had no choice but to strip Tyson Fury.

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              • Originally posted by original zero View Post
                Well not only does our friend "About Time" not like rules, he also doesn't like facts or logic.

                He attempts to post two "facts," but the first one is clearly an opinion and the second one is clearly false.

                FACT: Fury is the best heavyweight on the planet





                FACT: The IBF have installed an untested prospect as champion


                International Boxing Federation..........

                Weight class: Heavyweight

                Champion: Charles Martin (USA)

                Reign began: January 16, 2016


                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...ing_Federation


                Stop being silly, Mrs Martin


                Originally posted by original zero View Post
                The IBF did not install anyone as champion. The #1 contender fought the highest ranked available contender for the vacant title and lost.

                "About Time" continues to refuse to explain why he found it so upsetting for Charles Martin to be ranked #4 by the IBF when the WBO actually had him ranked #1.

                Their " #1 contender "..... did not even make your top 10, you asshat


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                • Their " #1 contender "..... did not even make your top 10, you asshat

                  you are a wally

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                  • Please look up the definition of "fact" and the definition of "opinion" as you clearly do not understand the concepts.

                    It is your *OPINION* that Fury is the "best" heavyweight. You label it a "fact" because you don't know what the words mean.

                    Please look up the definition of "installed."

                    Charles Martin fought for a vacant title and won. He was not awarded the title or installed as champion.

                    The WBO had him ranked #1, so no, he was not a prospect. He was a #1 contender.

                    If you believe he was "untested," that is lovely. I don't argue about opinions. You are free to believe whatever you wish about his credentials.

                    I did not have Glazkov in my top 10 *after he lost,* but did have him in my top 10 before he lost. Nice try.

                    14 pages in, and the following remains indisputable fact:

                    The IBF had no choice but to strip Tyson Fury.

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                    • Originally posted by original zero View Post
                      Please look up the definition of "fact" and the definition of "opinion" as you clearly do not understand the concepts.

                      It is your *OPINION* that Fury is the "best" heavyweight. You label it a "fact" because you don't know what the words mean.

                      Fury beat the man who was UNIVERSALLY regarded as the best heavyweight on the planet

                      Fury is now ranked as the best heavyweight on the planet by EVERY reputable organisation.

                      You sound utterly clueless kid.


                      Originally posted by original zero View Post
                      Please look up the definition of "installed."

                      Charles Martin fought for a vacant title and won. He was not awarded the title or installed as champion.

                      You can call it whatever you like foolio, but the fact remains.....

                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      International Boxing Federation..........

                      Weight class: Heavyweight

                      Champion: Charles Martin (USA)

                      Reign began: January 16, 2016


                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...ing_Federation

                      Originally posted by original zero View Post
                      The WBO had him ranked #1, so no, he was not a prospect. He was a #1 contender.

                      If you believe he was "untested," that is lovely. I don't argue about opinions. You are free to believe whatever you wish about his credentials.

                      Don't be ridiculous kid, he has fought NOBODY

                      And those very same ass-hats now have Parker ranked #1, despite the fact that he aint much more than an untested prospect either LMAO.

                      You are totally clueless, and devoid of common-sense.

                      " rules doe "


                      Originally posted by original zero View Post
                      I did not have Glazkov in my top 10 *after he lost,* but did have him in my top 10 before he lost. Nice try.

                      You fk'd up your list, by forgetting to include a guy for arguments sake, who should not have been included anyway.

                      Spin that however you like kid


                      Originally posted by original zero View Post
                      14 pages in, and the following remains indisputable fact:

                      The IBF had no choice but to strip Tyson Fury.

                      14 pages in, and the following fact remains.....

                      I use knowledge and common-sense..... and you use " rules doe ".

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