Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Next Fight: Tureano Johnson Injured and Ruled Out

[Chollo Vista]

First of all, Pirog wasn't a potential P4P anything

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Of course his potential was before he got hurt.

Secondly, I find it ironic that its OK for you to bring up past draw or whatever else to make your case against Lara. Yet I can't mention ya boy getting KTFO in my argument

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You can do whatever you like. Who said you couldn't?

Third, you keep calling Jabobs the #2 middleweight as if that's a good thing. If he's the #2 fighter in the division. It kinda stregnthems my stance that its time for GGG to look outside the division for legit challenges.

How is that not a good thing? The man has 11 straight KO victories since coming back, only reaching the 12th round one time. How is fighting Jacobs a bad thing; especially when he's never fought a fighter with as much speed, power and boxing ability as Jacobs.

I asked you earlier and you never responded so I'll ask you again. Do you not think Jacobs can box or do you think Lara is the only one?

As for Lara's best two wins. Paul Williams and Austin Trout. And in my own lil boxing universe, Canelo Alvarez. Danny Jacobs doesn't have a signle win to rival any of those

If we're being fair, the Paul Williams that Lara fought was coming off of being brutally KO'd unconscious in two rounds. If you listen to the commentary of Lara vs Williams, Roy Jones Jr was asking for the retirement of Paul Williams because he was obviously a shell of his old self. This is the fighter you rank as Lara's top victory?

Trout, ironically, was also coming off a loss. Why are Lara's top two best wins in your opinion against guys all coming off losses?

You have someone like Quillin who was undefeated and has at least a solid 3-4 wins. Me counting Lara's win over Paul Williams as a solid victory would be like me counting Quillin's win over Winky Wright; come on man. I don't think Lara has a win on his resume that trumps Jacobs over Quillin.

The rest of Jacobs's opponents arent' bad, but not top of the line either (i.e. Fletcher, Mora and Truax) all of whom were on some sort of win streak; whereas Trout and WIlliams were both coming off losses. Whether or not you agree, the mind frame of a fighter and his confidence matters when they're coming off a loss as oppose to being on a winning streak.

[BoxingIsGreat]

all of you shouting Lara don't know what u r talking about.
the pressure and cutting of the ring while shooting bombs at the ribs will make Lara quit around the 7th round.

Let's find out.

Styles and skills make fights. That's why they fight the fights, not just some armchair speculations. What's the alternative, Lemieux 2? No, thanks. I was OK with Johnson. Let's see something new. K2 needs to think out of the box for once. (The fight I really wanna see is against Ward at 168.)

I'm neither a Lara nor Ward fan, by the way, but I can appreciate their overall skills. Your boy needs to fight live bodies with different styles.

Dare to be great!

[daggum]

Let's find out.

Styles and skills make fights. That's why they fight the fights, not just some armchair speculations. What's the alternative, Lemieux 2? No, thanks. I was OK with Johnson. Let's see something new. K2 needs to think out of the box for once. (The fight I really wanna see is against Ward at 168.)

I'm neither a Lara nor Ward fan, by the way, but I can appreciate their overall skills. Your boy needs to fight live bodies with different styles.

Dare to be great!

ggg should have a super six style tournament where he fights every single fight in kazakhstan and is allowed to cheat nonstop. dare to be great!

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If we're being fair, the Paul Williams that Lara fought was coming off of being KO'd unconscious in two rounds. If you listen to the commentary of Lara vs Williams, Roy Jones Jr was asking for the retirement of Paul Williams because he was obviously a shell of his old self. This is the fighter you rank as Lara's top victory?

Trout, ironically, was also coming off a loss. Why are Lara's top two best wins in your opinion against guys all coming off losses?

You have someone like Quillin who was undefeated and has at least a solid 3-4 wins. Me counting Lara's win over Paul Williams as a solid victory would be like me counting Quillin's win over Winky Wright; come on man. I don't think Lara has a win on his resume that trumps Jacobs over Quillin.

The rest of Jacobs's opponents arent' bad, but not top of the line either (i.e. Fletcher, Mora and Truax) all of whom were on some sort of win streak; whereas Trout and WIlliams were both coming off losses. Whether or not you agree, the mind frame of a fighter and his confidence matters when they're coming off a loss as oppose to being on a winning streak.

Dude, Trout lost to freak'n Canelo via razor thin decision, in a fight a lotta people, myself included thought he won. Please come better than that boxrec bull**** you trying to throw over here.

As for Paul Williams. He looked like Paul Williams. He came out. He threw a million punches with little to no regard to what wsd coming back. Amd couldn't get outta the way of a straight left hand. Carlos Quintana. Sergio Martinez. Erisandy Lara. All of them were southpaws that landed left hands at will against P-Dub.

I can't tell you how to feel about Quillen. But from a skill standpoint, he's not close to being as sound as Trout. And from an accomplishment standpoint. He's not close to Williams. He looked like **** against Andy Lee, who's a bum. I just have a hard time understanding how Quillen is somehow a measuring stick for greatness. Because he's not very good.

[BoxingIsGreat]

ggg should have a super six style tournament where he fights every single fight in kazakhstan and is allowed to cheat nonstop. dare to be great!

Lara is willing to fight him there!

[Chollo Vista]

Dude, Trout lost to freak'n Canelo via razor thin decision, in a fight a lotta people, myself included thought he won. Please come better than that boxrec bull**** you trying to throw over here.

As for Paul Williams. He looked like Paul Williams. He came out. He threw a million punches with little to no regard to what wsd coming back. Amd couldn't get outta the way of a straight left hand. Carlos Quintana. Sergio Martinez. Erisandy Lara. All of them were southpaws that landed left hands at will against P-Dub.

I can't tell you how to feel about Quillen. But from a skill standpoint, he's not close to being as sound as Trout. And from an accomplishment standpoint. He's not close to Williams. He looked like **** against Andy Lee, who's a bum. I just have a hard time understanding how Quillen is somehow a measuring stick for greatness. Because he's not very good.

Who thought Trout beat Canelo? I know I didn't think so.

Paul Williams was a shell of himself. Why do you think everyone was begging for him to retire.

And it wasn't just southpaw's that landed against P-Dub. If you saw the Mathysse fight early in his career, Mathysse also landed at will. Hell, so did Margarito, especially late in the fight. It wasn't just southpaw's. It was just something about the Lara fight that told everyone Williams was a shell of himself.

And yes, beating prime Quillin in 83 seconds is better than beating the version of Paul Williams that Lara beat. And quite honestly, Austin Trout has NEVER been good in my book. He flickers his jab and greatly lacks in power. Hell, didn't he get dropped twice by some dude on ESPN? If you ask me, Trout actually got a gift against Cotto, but that's just me. Again, beating Austin Trout is no accomplishment to me, but you seem to like that style of fighter so I'm sure we'll disagree.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Who thought Trout beat Canelo? I know I didn't think so.

Paul Williams was a shell of himself. Why do you think everyone was begging for him to retire.

And it wasn't just southpaw's that landed against P-Dub. If you saw the Mathysse fight early in his career, Mathysse also landed at will. Hell, so did Margarito, especially late in the fight. It wasn't just southpaw's. It was just something about the Lara fight that told everyone Williams was a shell of himself.

And yes, beating prime Quillin in 83 seconds is better than beating the version of Paul Williams that Lara beat. And quite honestly, Austin Trout has NEVER been good in my book. He flickers his jab and greatly lacks in power. Hell, didn't he get dropped twice by some dude on ESPN? If you ask me, Trout actually got a gift against Cotto, but that's just me. Again, beating Austin Trout is no accomplishment to me, but you seem to like that style of fighter so I'm sure we'll disagree.

So we just make up wins for fighters now? With that logic, Murray beat Sergio. Murray is easily the better than Lara who "beat" Williams who was knocked dead by the guy who Murray beat.

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Who thought Trout beat Canelo? I know I didn't think so.

Paul Williams was a shell of himself. Why do you think everyone was begging for him to retire.

And it wasn't just southpaw's that landed against P-Dub. If you saw the Mathysse fight early in his career, Mathysse also landed at will. Hell, so did Margarito, especially late in the fight. It wasn't just southpaw's. It was just something about the Lara fight that told everyone Williams was a shell of himself.

And yes, beating prime Quillin in 83 seconds is better than beating the version of Paul Williams that Lara beat. And quite honestly, Austin Trout has NEVER been good in my book. He flickers his jab and greatly lacks in power. Hell, didn't he get dropped twice by some dude on ESPN? If you ask me, Trout actually got a gift against Cotto, but that's just me. Again, beating Austin Trout is no accomplishment to me, but you seem to like that style of fighter so I'm sure we'll disagree.

Gift against Cotto??? Seriously homie, stop yourself

[Chollo Vista]

Gift against Cotto??? Seriously homie, stop yourself

Yes. Come on man, so far you said Lara and Trout beat Canelo, but I'm wrong for saying I thought Cotto beat Trout?

I guess you're the only one that can disagree with a decision.

BTW, I don't know why we're talking about Trout because Austin Trout is just not that good to me. I wouldn't be proud to have him as my top win.

Come on man, he got dropped twice by some dude off ESPN. Yes, on ESPN, which is a station you despised a few posts back.

[Chollo Vista]

So we just make up wins for fighters now? With that logic, Murray beat Sergio. .

No.

Who's "making up Lara's win over Williams"?

Why do you think there was an investigation in the Lara-Williams fight that ended in all 3 judges being fired and accused of corruption? Did you see the fight?

How many times, outside of Pac-Bradley, have officials been mandated to explain how they scored the fight?

Murray and Martinez is not the same and it's not close.