Wilder-Szpilka averages 500K viewers

[buge]

yea that was too epic not to watch.. wonder how many watched on youtube, they made the video private

it showed about 2400 viewers on the main page, and under 100 on the one with subtitles

[Jsmooth9876]

If they hadn't competed with the NFL, I think Wilder-Szpilka could have gotten 1M viewers. Wilder has avg. higher numbers than other PBC fighters. Granted he's also fought on NBC, but his fight with Stiverne did 1.24M on Showtime. Had they delayed this fight for like 2 more weeks It could have done even better numbers.

It was bad scheduling imo.

Then it would be the Pro Bowl, bowling, PGA golf, Tennis, NASCAR, billiards, ball room dancing, squash, cricket, curling, or badmition that people would use as an excuse....

Boxing numbers are terrible. Nobody cares anymore about terrible fights...even as a hardcore fan I'm finding it hard to tune in to mismatch after mismatch...
More and more I'm just watching guys I like and not all the fights anymore... When fighters start fighting to see who the best is again I'll probably regain my passion for the sport... Until they stop making millions to fight stiffs it won't change.

[bigdunny1]

lol

Showtime just had Wilder-Szpilka this past weekend, will have Frampton-Quigg/Santa Cruz-Martinez in February, will likely have Brook-Bizier/Khan fight doubleheader in March, Chavez Jr fighting Badou Jack in April, Deontay Wilder fighting Alexander Povetkin in June, Adrien Broner back on their channel before the Spring is out, and a slew of ShoBox cards, all before even getting to the Summer (Stevenson-Kovalev for this summer, on HBO, will hurt, but that's the game sometimes).

You add that Showtime is also the likely home for a Winter 2016 Fury-Wilder PPV, and it's obvious that you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

For all this talk about how great a promoter Golden Boy is, what have they actually done since leaving Showtime? gtfoh

First they just OVERPAID for Wilder fight which bombed big time so let's not brag about that. lol Second other then the Frampton card none of these names you mentioned are guaranteed to be on Showtime considering none are under contract and even showtime doesn't know what fights Haymon will give them. But let's say they do give some what's to say they won't belly flop just like all the fights on showtime have done consistently for the last 8 plus months? Haymon ran that channel into the ground and that's why guys are doing HALF the ratings they did a year ago with Golden Boy promoting on Showtime.

And yeah golden boy hasn't done anything EXCEPT win Promoter of the year, they had the fight of the year (and had 3 of the top 5 fight of the year candidates), and numerous big fights that have DOUBLED and TRIPLED their showtime counterparts. Meanwhile Showtime had their knees cut out from under them and the ratings reflect that.

[Jubei]

PBCs megafight between Quillin and Jacobs got the worst ratings and was behind some teleshopping stuff on the same evening. Had 266k viewers.

Now you thought THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP Wilder will easily get maybe as much as the unknown Kazakh bum. But no way.

GGG does 1.3 million on cable while Wilder does 500k. Pitiful.

PBC the biggest fail in boxing history.

[Scipio2009]

All of those fights aren't going to SHO when Haymon is in bed with CBS, NBC, ESPN, FOX, and Spike. Stevenson-Kovalev also won't happen. No evidence Haymon will let Stevenson jump to the dark side for a PPV that will almost definitely flop.

Which of the fights, that I've mentioned, are unlikely to end up on Showtime? Broner-Theophane (the next likely fight for Broner) isn't a bout that I see anyone being excited to main event for primetime on NBC/CBS/FOX or ABC, and the fight involves too much money to AB to be put on for an afternoon show on national TV (the antics aren't all that helpful for the image that PBC is trying to present either). You've got Showtime, PBC on SpikeTV, and maybe PBC on ESPN as options for AB.

Beyond that, as Haymon has always shown with how he does business, he's committed to maximizing the money and opportunity for the fighters that he represents; Kovalev-Stevenson is the biggest fight out there, from an opportunity/legacy standpoint, for Stevenson. If the money can be worked out (split was written to be 50/50 by the WBC so if Main Events, no different than how Golden Boy was able to get Cotto to agree to come to Vegas when the money was better in New York, can work out paying Stevenson nearly 50% of what an open bid could've been, with Kovalev keeping the balance of what else is left, with both fighters sharing equally in the upside on the fight), there's no opportunity that Haymon could offer Stevenson that would trump that.

No fight gets put on, by anyone, without some idea as to how big the event is likely to be; with a 50/50 split being the general understanding for the fight, the only point really in doubt is the perceived market value for the US broadcast rights to the fight and the expected value of the US TV rights on fight night.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

yea that was too epic not to watch.. wonder how many watched on youtube, they made the video private

theirs was only 2400 on when I checked on it.

[Scipio2009]

First they just OVERPAID for Wilder fight which bombed big time so let's not brag about that. lol Second other then the Frampton card none of these names you mentioned are guaranteed to be on Showtime considering none are under contract and even showtime doesn't know what fights Haymon will give them. But let's say they do give some what's to say they won't belly flop just like all the fights on showtime have done consistently for the last 8 plus months? Haymon ran that channel into the ground and that's why guys are doing HALF the ratings they did a year ago with Golden Boy promoting on Showtime.

And yeah golden boy hasn't done anything EXCEPT win Promoter of the year, they had the fight of the year (and had 3 of the top 5 fight of the year candidates), and numerous big fights that have DOUBLED and TRIPLED their showtime counterparts. Meanwhile Showtime had their knees cut out from under them and the ratings reflect that.

The entire Wilder-Szpilka card, for what was televised, had a total fighter payout of $2.5m; with the folks that watched the fight live on Showtime, the folks that watched the fight on Showtime's YouTube page (which was how I watched it, after the fact, as I was travelling), the folks who caught the fight on their DVRs, and the amount attention that was drawn to the fight afterwards (the number of viewers who ended up seeing the penultimate moment of the massive KO of Szplika, in addition to the Fury-Wilder promo post-fight, as of 1/20/16, has already topped 4 million), I sincerely doubt that Showtime viewed the fight card as the flop that you seem to hope for it to have been (Showtime basically giving the card away for free should also be acknowledged).

Brook-Bizier is already set for Sky Sports, as is the Frampton-Quigg fight that was picked up (paired with LSC's first title defense, in anticipation of a possible LSC-Frampton/Quigg winner bout); with Amir Khan talking up having his next fight in March, and a possible Brook-Khan fight likely for Jul/Aug, making the investment in airing Brook's fight (especially if paired with a same-day Khan fight) is a no brainer. Chavez Jr commands more money than is feasible for a PBC card to fight, therefore it's likely that he fights out the rest of his career on Showtime/SHOPPV. You add that the bulk of the other fights mentioned involve significant international money (which draws up other issues, in terms of trying to sell US terrestrial TV rights on premium TV internationally).

If you want to honestly try to trumpet the success of Golden Boy, I've got better things to do with my time.

[Tom Cruise]

That, isnt good

[Dr Rumack]

I honestly don't care if PBC goes belly up. Makes no difference to me. You'll never see me in a thread big upping PBC or wishing for it's demise. I'll leave that up to you.

Sure. That's why you kept sending me all that weird Al Haymon sex fantasy fiction told from your perspective. Because you 'don't care'.

[El-blanco]

Then it would be the Pro Bowl, bowling, PGA golf, Tennis, NASCAR, billiards, ball room dancing, squash, cricket, curling, or badmition that people would use as an excuse....

Boxing numbers are terrible. Nobody cares anymore about terrible fights...even as a hardcore fan I'm finding it hard to tune in to mismatch after mismatch...
More and more I'm just watching guys I like and not all the fights anymore... When fighters start fighting to see who the best is again I'll probably regain my passion for the sport... Until they stop making millions to fight stiffs it won't change.

it's one excuse after the other for why it's a failure. Totally agree, I'm not wasting my time watching garbage anymore.