Why do people falsely claim that Haymon refuses to work with other promoters when...

[OnePunch]

Ali Act is to PROTECT Fighters, not other jealous Promotions who are afraid that they will get ran out of business because they aren't able to pay their fighters what their Competition is Payment lol

Let me know when a FIGHTER actually comes forward and claim that they feel their rights been violated as a fighter and accuse Haymon of violating the Ali Act and then I think more people will take it serious. But his competition and fan out the outside looking in making those claims are laughable

As for Claiming that Haymon Refuses to Work With Other Promoters, well he doesn't speak to the media so it is easy to accuse him of anything when he doesn't come out and defend himself nor does he speaks to the media. Not saying he should but I'm saying it is easy to make very ****** fans believe what ever they want about him because he doesn't address any of it.

It would be very easy to prove it isnt true. Just list a few examples of Haymon making a voluntary fight with a promoter that isnt on his payroll.

That shouldnt be too hard lol

[The Big Dunn]

When his shows are often times promoted by many different companies?

He has done shows with DiBella Promotions, Warriors Boxing, Goossen Promotions, GYM Promotions, Mayweather Promotions and many others.

Why do Golden Boy and Top Rank shills try and claim otherwise?

Just as a defense. HBO/TR/GBP have formed an alliance and decided not to work with Haymon. OK, that's their choice. All other promoters can work with Haymon. Posters on NSB should place blame where it lies-at the feet of HBO-and move on.

[The Gambler1981]

It would be very easy to prove it isnt true. Just list a few examples of Haymon making a voluntary fight with a promoter that isnt on his payroll.

That shouldnt be too hard lol

Pretty hard to do when GBP and Top Rank are in litigation making that a no go and both don't want to do anything with him either. Two way street.

The rest are heavily dependent on HBO with contracts tying them to HBO, who also don't want to help Haymon at all. Not wanting to hurt their standing with your main benefactor.

Goes both ways~

[sicko]

It would be very easy to prove it isnt true. Just list a few examples of Haymon making a voluntary fight with a promoter that isnt on his payroll.

That shouldnt be too hard lol

Eddie Hearn, Joe DeGuardia (Chris Algieri vs Khan), Don King (Imam vs Walter Castillo) need me to keep going?

Sound to me like you don't know WTF the Ali Act is for because you making it about the PROMOTERS when it doesn't have anything to do with the Promoters. Ali Act is to PROTECT THE FIGHTERS so again show me a fighter who has a Lawsuit going accusing Haymon of Violating The Ali Act and not his Competition and fans Assuming that is what he is doing

[DreamerUSA]

Just as a defense. HBO/TR/GBP have formed an alliance and decided not to work with Haymon. OK, that's their choice. All other promoters can work with Haymon. Posters on NSB should place blame where it lies-at the feet of HBO-and move on.

Its a two way street though. An example often used here and was actually used in this thread is Stevenson vs Kovalev. Main Events were willing to do 50/50 on HBO to avoid the purse bid, and for whatever reason Stevenson and his team just wanted it to go to a purse bid. Not condoning it because it is one of the things that irks me with boxing and the bigger fighters, but everyone knew that Kovalev could'nt fight off HBO when Stevenson has no such contract. That fight could of been made if Stevenson really wanted it and it had nothing to do with HBO being unwilling to work with Haymon.

There is plenty of blame to go around and trying to lay the blame in one spot is just crazy imo.

[OnePunch]

Sound to me like you don't know WTF the Ali Act is for because you making it about the PROMOTERS when it doesn't have anything to do with the Promoters. Ali Act is to PROTECT THE FIGHTERS so again show me a fighter who has a Lawsuit going accusing Haymon of Violating The Ali Act and not his Competition and fans Assuming that is what he is doing

You really should READ the Ali Act before you try and tell anyone else whats in it.

The Ali Act specifically PROHIBITS a "manager" from having a financial interest in the promotion of a fighter.

Al Haymon is a licensed manager.

If you are trying to claim he does NOT have a financial interest in PBC events, then you either are a liar, or just ******. Your choice.

[sicko]

You really should READ the Ali Act before you try and tell anyone else whats in it.

The Ali Act specifically PROHIBITS a "manager" from having a financial interest in the promotion of a fighter.

Al Haymon is a licensed manager.

If you are trying to claim he does NOT have a financial interest in PBC events, then you either are a liar, or just ******. Your choice.

Again you're ASSUMING what he is doing, you don't know that for sure. I'm not claiming Haymon of doing anything, all I'm saying is where are the FIGHTERS complaining about his Practice? That holds more weight compared to some fan on a forum or his competition complaining about how he does business.

PBC is not a Promotion it is a Platform more than anything else. No different than what HBO is doing by signing fighters to fight on their Network Exclusively. Peter Nelson is also involved with the Matchmaking at HBO on top of signing fighters to fight on their Network exclusively, what is the differences?

[hectari]

When his shows are often times promoted by many different companies?

He has done shows with DiBella Promotions, Warriors Boxing, Goossen Promotions, GYM Promotions, Mayweather Promotions and many others.

Why do Golden Boy and Top Rank shills try and claim otherwise?

Those promoters you listed are small time and are on Haymons payroll lol, he uses them similar to how he used Golden Boy using them as the promoter so he can get away with a loophole in the muhammad ali act, and Haymon must have superior power over them in order for them to work together, thats the difference, you are showing smaller level promoters.

Haymon must have the power over them, you leave that out.

[The Big Dunn]

Its a two way street though. An example often used here and was actually used in this thread is Stevenson vs Kovalev. Main Events were willing to do 50/50 on HBO to avoid the purse bid, and for whatever reason Stevenson and his team just wanted it to go to a purse bid. Not condoning it because it is one of the things that irks me with boxing and the bigger fighters, but everyone knew that Kovalev could'nt fight off HBO when Stevenson has no such contract. That fight could of been made if Stevenson really wanted it and it had nothing to do with HBO being unwilling to work with Haymon.

There is plenty of blame to go around and trying to lay the blame in one spot is just crazy imo.

Respectfully, how can it be a 2 way street when HBO banned Haymon?

Not for whatever reason. WHoever wins the bid controls venue and TV network. That would be asking Haymon to help HBO, an entity that banned him and is partners with the 2 companies suing him, profit. Would you do that if you were Haymon? Of course not.

Then KOv should look to leave his HBO deal if it limits his ability to fight places.

Stop oversimplifying. HBO didn't get the fight signed when it should have. That isn't Haymon's fault. Had HBO not banned Haymon, he wouldn't have signed Stevenson as a defensive maneuver to take him to SHO, thus preventing HBO from making the profit off that fight.

Respectfully, Haymon assumes some blame with the moves he has made that prevent HBO signed fighters from getting fights the network might like. That said, the 1st move was HBO banning Haymon. I doubt you would run your business in a way to help HBO if you were Haymon.

Maybe HBO should just bring back Haymon fighters.

[DreamerUSA]

Respectfully, how can it be a 2 way street when HBO banned Haymon?

Not for whatever reason. WHoever wins the bid controls venue and TV network. That would be asking Haymon to help HBO, an entity that banned him and is partners with the 2 companies suing him, profit. Would you do that if you were Haymon? Of course not.

Then KOv should look to leave his HBO deal if it limits his ability to fight places.

Stop oversimplifying. HBO didn't get the fight signed when it should have. That isn't Haymon's fault. Had HBO not banned Haymon, he wouldn't have signed Stevenson as a defensive maneuver to take him to SHO, thus preventing HBO from making the profit off that fight.

Respectfully, Haymon assumes some blame with the moves he has made that prevent HBO signed fighters from getting fights the network might like. That said, the 1st move was HBO banning Haymon. I doubt you would run your business in a way to help HBO if you were Haymon.

Maybe HBO should just bring back Haymon fighters.

Umm the fight could of been made, yes it would of been HBO, but that is'nt banned. Yes I get the business aspect, but again that is a two way street. Why would HBO do something to help Haymon? Round and round we go. Anyways my larger point is I don't get why people want to defend any of these asshats when they all get in the way of fights getting made. Picking sides just seems silly to me when no one has any kind of concrete proof about anything. Everyone just bases their opinion on the serious of events that have unfolded over the last few years.