hes right,,, i think floyd just hates the facyt he really had no fans,, the arenas alway were in favor of the opponent, people bought the ppv to see him lose not because they limed him,i think everytime he sees fighters like pac that bring a lot of fans he just gets jealous and then brings in racism when i dont think thats the case at all
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I don't understand why poster here call Oscar jealous of Floyd. Floyd talks about Oscar all the time too. Why is Floyd any different?
Back to the topic, I believe there is some kind of racism, but certain people always play the race card when fans don't love them. Floyd is a super star and has money that should last him a lifetime. I'm sure if he was racial profiled, he wouldn't be where he is at now.
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I get what Oscar is saying but to say "There Is No Racism In Boxing" is flat out IGNORANT!
Of course their is Racism in every sport because Racism still exist but the good thing about boxing is that the fighters can kinda control their own image. If you're a Phony Kiss Ass who say all the right things like Oscar did then yes you will be loved by Casuals. If you speak your mind and you don't say what people want to hear people will hate you because at their jobs they can't speak their minds.
I watched Oscar Career, I remember when he was hated by his own people and then he started coming out with the Mariachi Costume and he was signing lol Oscar always been a Corporate Kiss Ass
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Originally posted by lopez36 View Posthes right,,, i think floyd just hates the facyt he really had no fans,, the arenas alway were in favor of the opponent, people bought the ppv to see him lose not because they limed him,i think everytime he sees fighters like pac that bring a lot of fans he just gets jealous and then brings in racism when i dont think thats the case at all
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Originally posted by KLockard23 View PostTo be fair, plenty others would have fared better if they had fought an entirely defensive style that relied purely on your opponent being the main aggressor like Floyd did.
lol Because people wanted to see him lose. That's why whenever he fought an opponent that people thought was good enough to beat him, his fights drew huge. When he fought scrubs like Victor "The Bum" Ortiz, Andre Berto, and Robert Guerrero, his fights were pretty much flops. In his own words, he made a career off being the villain.
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Imagine when Floyd is in his 50's....he's going to be a cranky old thang. Floyd needs to find peace. All the surroundings and wealth but there is something missing in Floyd. Why else would someone who has hundreds of millions of dollar gamble?! He needs to build a snowman in a winter breeze, climb the highest peak stare up and wonder if heavens gate is just a little bit closer.....watch the sunset on the sands of a sunny beach.
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Very Good interview with Virgil Hunter!
January 12, 2016:
BT: Obviously times have changed since those days, but based on your own experiences in boxing, do you feel like a level of racism still exists today inside the industry? You just gave a lot of great examples from the past, but do you think now, in 2016, that a similar type of mentally exists where certain individuals may not want to promote an African American champion the same way they would a fighter of a different race?
I heard a person come up to me in the store and he asks me, "When is Mayweather going to retire? He's made enough of money." Now, I've heard this statement concerning African American athletes more than once. It's like after you make a certain amount of money, you don't need to make anymore money, see, but nobody says that to Warren Buffet. Nobody says that to Bill Gates. Nobody says, "Haven't you made enough computers. I mean, you made billions. Don't you have enough money?" It's only said to African American athletes. Nobody says that about Wladimir Klitschko. I think when he brings up Ronda Rousey, I think he has a solid point there. This is not to vilify Ronda Rousey. She can only win in the ring, but the perception of her, to grab onto her; we experienced in boxing when Tommy Morrison came along, who happen to think is one heck of a heavyweight. When John Wayne's name was attached to him, it opened up doors for him. I don't even know if that had even been proven that that was the case, but that was the line that was used all the time, you see...
Another good example is this "diva" title that they tried to put on Andre because he in tune to the business side of it. How many times have we seen African American athletes broke because they didn't pay attention to the business side of it? When he was with, God bless his soul, a great man, a good man, Dan Goossen, people said that Dan did this for him and Dan built his career. Andre Ward has to win in the ring to build him. If you gonna look at it the right way, you have to reverse that perception. Andre Ward made Dan Goossen also. Don't get me wrong, I love Dan Goossen. I think he was one of the most intriguing men that I ever met in my life, but Dan Goossen didn't say that. He might have said it when he was angry, but I never heard Dan Goossen say, "I did this for Andre Ward and I did that." What do you mean? He has to get in the ring and win. You didn't just put him in the ring and say, "Okay, he wins." He has to fight; he has to perform. The bigger the fighter, the bigger the promoter. Take away a top fighter from a promoter and see what's left. There are a lot of promoters today that can't get television dates because they don't have the product. You have to have the product, you see. If you don't have the product, you don't have the power. The fighter brings that. The main fighter brings the power. The kid opened the door by winning. What people have to understand is that Andre Ward has gone through things in life that he believes in, like anybody else, and you want to say he's a diva? Well, he didn't have a problem fighting on BET. You want to say he's a diva? When he won the gold medal, he had the flag around his shoulders. When he won the Super Six, his main statement was that the title was going to stay in America. It's not going to England, it's not going to Denmark, it's not going to German, it's going to stay here. I think when an Afrian American man is brought up to tend to his business, when he is educated on the dark side of boxing, when he has enough examples to look at in this business to see that I better stay in tune to what's going on in my career, you see, he gets a name put on him. I can really understand what Floyd is saying...
I think that the media, instead of trying to vilify Floyd, what's the solution? What are we going to do about it? They vilified Floyd for fighting Andre Berto in his last fight. Well, he had a right to fight Andre Berto in his last fight. If you look at his resume, the very same guy that you got ranked up there now high, Canelo, he beat Canelo. He beat Cotto. He beat all these guys convincingly and you have them ranked, but now you want him to fight GGG. The bottom line is that anybody that's African American knows this for a fact, it's very hard for the boxing media to let Floyd walk away undefeated without seeing him get hurt, injured, or knocked out in a boxing ring because he flaunted everything in their face. But the very thing they hated, him flaunting it, is the very same thing they used to capitalize on by writing a column. They make much out of anything. Even his statement about Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali, how he said he was better than all of them. Well, I'm not going to get into that debate, each one of them had their time, but I will say after 35 years old, he was better than they were. They talk about Floyd fighting Berto, who was a two-time world champ. Well, Ali's intent for his last fight was to fight Leon Spinks, who only had 8 or 9 fights, and he lost to him, so he came back just to clean that up and then he retired. He came back, which he shouldn't have, but his initial plan was to fight Leon Spinks, an easy fight out the door, and retire. It just backfired on him. Look at Joe Calzaghe; he fights Roy [Jones Jr.] his last fight. Roy had been stopped 2 or 3 times by then, but nobody complained about that. Nobody complains about the governing bodies letting [Arthur] Abraham stay over in Germany and fight who he wants to fight. Nobody complains when these belts get over there, like with Felix Sturm and how he was able to keep that belt by not fighting nobody and guys getting passed over for it. Nobody said a word.
http://www.fighthype.com/news/article22967.htmlLast edited by Bronx2245; 01-12-2016, 01:01 PM.
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Greetings from Vegas. Just waiting for show doors to open.
Sadly i think racism exists in all sports but not all of it is racism
basketball is approx. 80% african american but they had to get rid of an owner cause he was racist. An owner!! That was racist
In baseball i recall HOF 2nd basemen Joe Morgan saying he didnt like the way a certain team looked, while a broadcaster on ESPN, cause it had no african americans and was full of latin players. It gained steam but the team said they wanted the best players available and this was it. They had bench players that were african american so i dont think that was racism.....at least toward african americans maybe Morgan was towards Latin but i dont think it was that
But overall all you have to do is turn on the news and see that racism in America is sadly gaining traction again.Last edited by Fetta; 01-12-2016, 01:18 PM.
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Originally posted by R-C View PostI don't understand why poster here call Oscar jealous of Floyd. Floyd talks about Oscar all the time too. Why is Floyd any different?
Back to the topic, I believe there is some kind of racism, but certain people always play the race card when fans don't love them. Floyd is a super star and has money that should last him a lifetime. I'm sure if he was racial profiled, he wouldn't be where he is at now.
Not only that, but Fraud's jealous of white people getting all the attention.
I can understand why he talked about Rousey, since she and her fans talked about Fraud first, but when has Connor McGreggor ever said anything about Fraud?
If McGreggor were black, he'd be praising him.
He and his fans are just jealous of the white man.
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