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  • tiliheels
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    #71
    Originally posted by Kickback
    Floyds got the gift of the gab, and at least the names he was facing had resonance with the more casual fan
    rigo has the gift of gab in spanish..and if u invest in him and teach him like they did GGG it is even better...but u cant expect him to do it on his own while worreid about being a fighter and father who cant get a dawgon fight

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    • deanrw
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      #72
      Originally posted by tiliheels
      rigo has the gift of gab in spanish..and if u invest in him and teach him like they did GGG it is even better...but u cant expect him to do it on his own while worreid about being a fighter and father who cant get a dawgon fight
      Most of this is Rigo's fault, for picking his team of Caribe. One thing you will notice with GGG's team, is that from the very beginning, they have pumped the message out about him. Even GGG has showed up everywhere, at other fights, being accessible to fans, you name it.

      I have seen Rigo disappear completely off the map for extended periods. Nothing from his camp. No fights, or even promotional vids or interviews nothing. He does not even self promote by getting himself out there when he is not fighting.

      Self promotion is very important.

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      • Eastcoast
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        #73
        All these Barrera/Ward cartoons have done more promoting for Ward than Roc Nation has for him in the past 10 months.



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        • Deevel916
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          #74
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          That fact is totally lost on the casuals.

          Golovkin could have been great.

          Barrera and Kovalev will have their chance.
          Please explain how beating a fighter who hasn't had a significant win since 2011 makes you the "hottest guy in boxing!?"
          Last edited by Deevel916; 01-11-2016, 04:34 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Eastcoast
            All these Barrera/Ward cartoons have done more promoting for Ward than Roc Nation has for him in the past 10 months.



            I agree. Jay should have just stuck to what he's good at. He's out of his depth in this boxing game.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Deevel916
              I agree. Jay should have just stuck to what he's good at. He's out of his depth in this boxing game.
              Jay Z isn't even hands on with boxing business, d-bags Michael Yormark & David Itskowitch are the ones running it. Maybe he should get more involved.

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                #77
                Originally posted by deanrw
                Most of this is Rigo's fault, for picking his team of Caribe. One thing you will notice with GGG's team, is that from the very beginning, they have pumped the message out about him. Even GGG has showed up everywhere, at other fights, being accessible to fans, you name it.

                I have seen Rigo disappear completely off the map for extended periods. Nothing from his camp. No fights, or even promotional vids or interviews nothing. He does not even self promote by getting himself out there when he is not fighting.

                Self promotion is very important.
                umm and u think that didnt have an hbo push behind it? dont be so niave..k2 has other fighters..are they showing up everywhere??
                rigo didnt disappear he was banished..he won his fights and asked for the biggest fights..instead hbo didnt push for great fights like donaire 2, frampton, or quigg..even kiko martinez at that time..they invested in 160 instead the white fighter vs bums..now canelo makes it look a little better but he's unproven vs ppl his own size and ggg should walk right over him..

                im sorry i can see it no other way..these issues exist..k2 didnt do a thing alone..

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by tiliheels
                  umm and u think that didnt have an hbo push behind it? dont be so niave..k2 has other fighters..are they showing up everywhere??
                  rigo didnt disappear he was banished..he won his fights and asked for the biggest fights..instead hbo didnt push for great fights like donaire 2, frampton, or quigg..even kiko martinez at that time..they invested in 160 instead the white fighter vs bums..now canelo makes it look a little better but he's unproven vs ppl his own size and ggg should walk right over him..

                  im sorry i can see it no other way..these issues exist..k2 didnt do a thing alone..
                  Sure HBO does. They found an exciting busy champion. Their push though is only within their own boundaries. It is a lot easier to push a guy who is fan friendly vs a guy who is not. Lets say I wanted to build a boxing related website, and I pushed Rigo heavily on it along with GGG. One of them is going to get the hits and one of them is not. That is fact. Rigo is simply not fan friendly. So after a while what would I do? I would pump out more articles on GGG to sustain readers. You would do the same thing. Anyone who wants to maintain readership or viewership would do the same. It is just how it is.

                  The problem with so many is because GGG is getting pushed, they think it is about race. I remember times when I could not watch a tv show without seeing Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods in them. It is about likability and it does not involve skin color to 99%. The 1% will find an issue because of their own insecurities. You don't see Kovalev out there getting commercials do you? It is because he is not nearly as marketable as GGG.
                  Last edited by deanrw; 01-11-2016, 07:09 PM.

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    That's not a fact, that's just your opinion, and it has no basis in reality.

                    Beating Ward would not make Barrera "the Man".

                    He would still be exactly what he is right now - mandatory challenger to Sergey Kovalev. If he moved on from Ward to beat kovalev, that might do the trick.

                    Nah, thats just your fanboy spin.

                    If Barrera beats Ward he will be favored over Kovalev.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by tiliheels
                      i dopnt look at pics..i seen his comment and he's either a fake or brainwashed..how is it a not a sweepstakes if u are making your highest purse of 200k and getting a shot at a p4p king at his weakest point?

                      but you clowns dont critically think when it is someone u hate

                      ggg doe

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