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  • aboutfkntime
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    #81
    Originally posted by Jubei
    Ward had a great run in the last 4 years.

    A timeline.

    2012 One fight in Oakland.

    Defeats a drained Zombie Dawson at his backyard, who got knocked out by Adonis Duckinson a fight later and kept on losing to Tommy Karpency.

    2013 Ducked a GGG fight at 168. Fought one time in Oakland.

    HBO had a meeting with Ward and GGG and GGG agreed to fight Ward 168, after GGG blasted out Macklin in 3 rounds, but Ward passed on the fight and opted to fight Edwin Rodriguez instead. GGG then fought Curtis Stevens.

    Ward defeats Edwin Rodriguez in his backyard by decision in an uneventful fight.

    2014 Ward spent his time suing dead-ill Goossen in court.

    2015 One fight in Oakland and more negativity.

    Ward dragged fat and unmotivated 168lb Paul Smith to Light Heavyweight who was on a 2 fight losing streak against Abraham. The guy didnt even make weight and just took the fight for a payday.

    Gets several chosen opponents rejected by the NSAC because of extreme mismatch potential. For example Rohan Murdock, a novice australian supermiddleweight who Ward wanted to drag to 175.

    Later this year pulls out of the Cotto Canelo PPV because of a little knee swelling. Yeah..

    2016 not looking much better

    Sent a contract to another fringe Supermiddle to fight him at 175, who only won 3 out of his last 7 fights in Marco Antonio Periban, a guy that already lost to J'leon Love.. Amazing.

    Keeps tweeting about how its a blessing to give to other people and at the same time lowballs the first solid contender that he would fight in several years in Sullivan Barrera.

    To be continued.

    Just to add context, coz you fanboy ****** aren't very good at that.....

    ..... for that exact same period of time, Golovkin has stated that he can beat "anyone from 154-168"..... so, how many times did he attempt to live up to his HYPE by fighting outside his weight class, like he said..... ?

    Oh right, NONE..... NADDA.... ZIP..... ZEROOOOOOOOOO !!


    FACT:.....
    IF Ward beats Kova, he eclipses Hypekins entire career in ONE FIGHT !

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #82
      Originally posted by MDPopescu
      ... trolling on the "GGG duck" issue is outdated already... the "anti-Irish racism" is now drawing the headlines on Boxingscene...

      Nah, we still remember the " GGG duck "

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        #83
        Originally posted by Deevel916
        Please explain how beating a fighter who hasn't had a significant win since 2011 makes you the "hottest guy in boxing!?"

        " Andre Ward is P4P #1 "
        ~ Abel Sanchez


        You clueless casual fans need to do some research.


        EVERY trainer says Ward > Golovkin, bar none !!

        Oh, except Sanchez, who says that Ward is the best fighter on the planet


        Ward hasn't lost a fight since he was 12, it's funny you think he forgot how?

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          #84
          Originally posted by deanrw
          Sure HBO does. They found an exciting busy champion. Their push though is only within their own boundaries. It is a lot easier to push a guy who is fan friendly vs a guy who is not. Lets say I wanted to build a boxing related website, and I pushed Rigo heavily on it along with GGG. One of them is going to get the hits and one of them is not. That is fact. Rigo is simply not fan friendly. So after a while what would I do? I would pump out more articles on GGG to sustain readers. You would do the same thing. Anyone who wants to maintain readership or viewership would do the same. It is just how it is.

          The problem with so many is because GGG is getting pushed, they think it is about race. I remember times when I could not watch a tv show without seeing Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods in them. It is about likability and it does not involve skin color to 99%. The 1% will find an issue because of their own insecurities. You don't see Kovalev out there getting commercials do you? It is because he is not nearly as marketable as GGG.
          lol mike and tiger pushed "through any bounds"..and that is a BS comparison..mj and tiger have did too many things not to be noticed...ggg beat geale and he's an apple signee?? sttop it dude
          im sorry i dont see anytnig special in ggg when he cant even put words together..bc he laughs?? no its bc of an hbo push and bc they know canelo close to him..its an attempt to build a super fight that is not competitive.

          rigo after leaving had 2 consecutive stoppages...round 1 ko..then a fight whre he was knocked down twice..and dropped the other guy once..and then finished him with a potato on his face....FAN FRIENDLY U SAY?
          hbo didnt put up the money for him but they did for the white guy that is a simple fact...if u think rigo doesnt have personality u are dumb as it gets..he talks crap great and is energetic when doing it

          push through any bounds except ward...REMEMBER THAT

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            #85
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            " Andre Ward is P4P #1 "
            ~ Abel Sanchez


            You clueless casual fans need to do some research.


            EVERY trainer says Ward > Golovkin, bar none !!

            Oh, except Sanchez, who says that Ward is the best fighter on the planet


            Ward hasn't lost a fight since he was 12, it's funny you think he forgot how?


            So despite not having a significant win since the super 6 which was 5-6yrs ago, Ward is considered pfp#1 based on something Abel Sanchez said? Gotcha!

            Look, he very well may be pfp#1 when it all plays out but he hasn't shown us anything in 5yrs! Pfp status isn't something that carries with you until you lose despite being inactive and fighting C-level opposition for the past 5yrs.
            Last edited by Deevel916; 01-12-2016, 08:19 AM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by tiliheels
              lol mike and tiger pushed "through any bounds"..and that is a BS comparison..mj and tiger have did too many things not to be noticed...ggg beat geale and he's an apple signee?? sttop it dude
              im sorry i dont see anytnig special in ggg when he cant even put words together..bc he laughs?? no its bc of an hbo push and bc they know canelo close to him..its an attempt to build a super fight that is not competitive.

              rigo after leaving had 2 consecutive stoppages...round 1 ko..then a fight whre he was knocked down twice..and dropped the other guy once..and then finished him with a potato on his face....FAN FRIENDLY U SAY?
              hbo didnt put up the money for him but they did for the white guy that is a simple fact...if u think rigo doesnt have personality u are dumb as it gets..he talks crap great and is energetic when doing it

              push through any bounds except ward...REMEMBER THAT
              What good is the crap he talks if nobody understands his language!? Secondly, HBO pushes whomever they see is bringing in viewers, sponsors and filling arenas. Or at least has the potential too. Remember when Rigo headlined a card with Gabe Rosado on the undercard? Do you also remember how viewership dropped off by more than half once Rigo's fight started? Look, the guy is a great talent but he's too conservative a fighter. He doesn't go for the kill even when he has his opponent/s outclassed. This is the fight game. Not capoeira.

              Do you think its just some sort of conspiracy that GGG is more in demand than Rigo? Remember when Pac burst on to the scene? Larry Merchant couldn't even pronounce his name right. What happened? Pac dominated his opponent who was the reigning champ by the way and drew interest from fans. Every outing after that he came in the ring to lay it all on the line and grew more and more popular win or lose. There was no initial "push" by HBO. All HBO did was what any other corporation would do and that is continue to give the consumer more of what they want and make $$$ in return! Rigo is a bad investment in the eyes of HBO. If he wasn't they would have given him a contract.

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                #87
                Periban at 176 is better than Barrera at 175.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  What good is the crap he talks if nobody understands his language!? Secondly, HBO pushes whomever they see is bringing in viewers, sponsors and filling arenas. Or at least has the potential too. Remember when Rigo headlined a card with Gabe Rosado on the undercard? Do you also remember how viewership dropped off by more than half once Rigo's fight started? Look, the guy is a great talent but he's too conservative a fighter. He doesn't go for the kill even when he has his opponent/s outclassed. This is the fight game. Not capoeira.

                  Do you think its just some sort of conspiracy that GGG is more in demand than Rigo? Remember when Pac burst on to the scene? Larry Merchant couldn't even pronounce his name right. What happened? Pac dominated his opponent who was the reigning champ by the way and drew interest from fans. Every outing after that he came in the ring to lay it all on the line and grew more and more popular win or lose. There was no initial "push" by HBO. All HBO did was what any other corporation would do and that is continue to give the consumer more of what they want and make $$$ in return! Rigo is a bad investment in the eyes of HBO. If he wasn't they would have given him a contract.
                  Little does Tiliheels know that GGG had to prove his worth to HBO for multiple fights before he even got a decent payday. Rigo on the other hand was getting paid more and getting constant boos and low ratings except for the Donaire fight. The guy thinks it is HBO or Showtime who make the stars and that the fighters have nothing to do with it. Arum tried with Rigo to up his game, Rigo did not listen. HBO tried, Rigo did not listen. In the end all he became was an expense. So they dumped him.

                  Lots of time then goes past and someone finally picked Rigo up (rocnation) and what does Rigo do? He stinks out the joint in response.

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                  • tiliheels
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Deevel916
                    What good is the crap he talks if nobody understands his language!? Secondly, HBO pushes whomever they see is bringing in viewers, sponsors and filling arenas. Or at least has the potential too. Remember when Rigo headlined a card with Gabe Rosado on the undercard? Do you also remember how viewership dropped off by more than half once Rigo's fight started? Look, the guy is a great talent but he's too conservative a fighter. He doesn't go for the kill even when he has his opponent/s outclassed. This is the fight game. Not capoeira.

                    Do you think its just some sort of conspiracy that GGG is more in demand than Rigo? Remember when Pac burst on to the scene? Larry Merchant couldn't even pronounce his name right. What happened? Pac dominated his opponent who was the reigning champ by the way and drew interest from fans. Every outing after that he came in the ring to lay it all on the line and grew more and more popular win or lose. There was no initial "push" by HBO. All HBO did was what any other corporation would do and that is continue to give the consumer more of what they want and make $$$ in return! Rigo is a bad investment in the eyes of HBO. If he wasn't they would have given him a contract.
                    pac is not a good example for ggg ..he is a better on for rigo..pac had a 3 legends to fight...ggg has yet to fight one..rigo has fought 1 and has about 5 other worldclass guys around him he is willing to fight...ggg has 1 worldclass guy around him and he's not witlling to go to 168

                    bascially all u said is pac was finally pushed...and rigo was jut pushed away..

                    but please understand floyd has done 2 million buys on that network..1.5. 1.3..and 1.2 on hbo fightin the same exact way...they hvae to be the biggest dumbie in the world to let that dominance go...and they did..are they dumb or prejudice??

                    meanwhile mr high demand just did 97k...

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                    • tiliheels
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by deanrw
                      Little does Tiliheels know that GGG had to prove his worth to HBO for multiple fights before he even got a decent payday. Rigo on the other hand was getting paid more and getting constant boos and low ratings except for the Donaire fight. The guy thinks it is HBO or Showtime who make the stars and that the fighters have nothing to do with it. Arum tried with Rigo to up his game, Rigo did not listen. HBO tried, Rigo did not listen. In the end all he became was an expense. So they dumped him.

                      Lots of time then goes past and someone finally picked Rigo up (rocnation) and what does Rigo do? He stinks out the joint in response.
                      um floyd was boo'd..but u see his numbers..u understand that doniare did his highest numbers wtih rigo..when uput on top fight u get top numbers..hbo knows that...instead they let go of a style that has done 2 million on their network for a style that just did 97k...

                      that is the truth...rigo will have the last laugh in he stays in shape

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