Now the dust has settled on May 2 - Manny and PED accusations

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Rath, you express your writing skills very well. I am not insulted for being compared to you. I am merely saying our writing style is very different from me to think we are one and the same. As usual these Floyd fans are grasping straws desperate to put us out of commission. That's how bad they want us hanged for speaking the truth hehehe

8-4 Pac! Cheers!

Love the brown nosing you suck up real good lol

But then again when your supporters are very few and you want to spam the forum with BS you need all the help you can get , you really know how to tickle your buddys ball bag , bravo great job !

[Zaroku]

Rath, you express your writing skills very well. I am not insulted for being compared to you. I am merely saying our writing style is very different from me to think we are one and the same. As usual these Floyd fans are grasping straws desperate to put us out of commission. That's how bad they want us hanged for speaking the truth hehehe

8-4 Pac! Cheers!

Rath is a PAC Warrior!!! Rath will need to go out on his shield.. Never surrender Rath!

[sunny31]

Pacquiao threw less and landed less than Berto did. Talk of slow-motion replays and posts that are too long for anyone to ever read don't change that. Spent years making promises, didn't deliver and then made excuses.

As for the PED rumours, I don't think either are clean. You surely have to be a big fan of theirs to believe that they've never used illegal substances. Seems to me Manny used primarily during his time training with Ariza. Floyd knew it too which is why he hired him. Both were already super-talented world champions before that point but their achievements are tainted.

The hypocrisy from fans on the whole issue was always laughable, you had Floyd fans spending every day spamming this place with threads on how Pac's resume was all just cherry picks and his wins were unimpressive, then Floyd Sr accused him of using roids and suddenly all of his wins were so incredible that it was impossible for him to be clean, literally they changed stance overnight to suit the agenda. Then you have Pacquiao fans telling us that it's reasonable for us to miss out on the fight because Pac with his multiple tattoos has a fear of needles or will be blood drained if tested a week before the fight.

After getting knocked out Manny didn't look as good, not shot but declined physically and mentally as well as likely off the roids, so it's no big surprise how his fight with Floyd went. He had a chance to make the fight when he was closer to his prime and backed out to avoid a drugs test. It sucks because he was such an entertaining, ballsy fighter but the facts are what they are.

Pacquiao threw less, landed pretty much the same as Berto (if you are using compubox, which I assume you are) and Mayweather landed nearly a hundred more punches on Berto at a much higher connect % then he did Pacquiao, so that statement is pretty misleading.

Thanks for actually sticking to the thread topic though and interesting opinion on the PED use. As I said I am not sure on PED use either way, I am hoping the truth is going to come out one day about this whole era, because it all seems pretty shady. Although in his fight with Floyd where you assume he wasn't using, he didn't look all that different and the punching power seemed to be there. His stamina maybe you could question but Pacquiao hasn't been consistent with his workrate for a while now, and has looked in a steady decline. I just hope we get the truth at some point either way.

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I'm sure there's a pact@rd narrated slow mo video that shows manny clearly winning all 3.

Wouldn't surprise me

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I wonder if Pacquaio was afforded the opportunity to replenish all his nutrients before the fight night totaling 750ml worth of re-dehydration fluid would he be able to go 12 hard.

fair questions like this should be asked. It was not a level playing field.

They signed the same contract. He never tried to, never said he wanted to after. And his trainer knows all about it since he was the one who spotted fresh IV marks on Oscar De La Hoya's arm right before he fought Pacquiao. Your argument would hold water if they requested it.

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I wonder if Pacquaio was afforded the opportunity to replenish all his nutrients before the fight night totaling 750ml worth of re-dehydration fluid would he be able to go 12 hard.

fair questions like this should be asked. It was not a level playing field.

Pac is not a big fighter coming down. Why would he need to rehydrate?

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Pac is not a big fighter coming down. Why would he need to rehydrate?

he should be allowed to inject himself with same mix of nutrients mayweather did right? Level playing field.

[Rath]

he should be allowed to inject himself with same mix of nutrients mayweather did right? Level playing field.

until now you don't have any idea what to genius Floyd fans is the definition of Floyd's " level playing field " ?

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until now you don't have any idea what to genius Floyd fans is the definition of Floyd's " level playing field " ?

Mannys is Toradol do some research Manny been cheating his ass of for years no wonder the child gullibles like you got ****** into the fake lol .

[Rath]

Mannys is Toradol do some research Manny been cheating his ass of for years no wonder the child gullibles like you got ****** into the fake lol .

Floyd's level playing field doe