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  • Tom Cruise
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    #21
    Originally posted by saint laurent
    You are the one lacking common sense.

    Fury was a WBO mandatory. He was under no obligation whatsoever to grant a rematch. He ***voluntarily*** agreed to make an ***optional*** defense against Klitschko, even though he knew the IBF mandatory was overdue and that he'd have to vacate.

    They already gave extra time by allowing the Fury fight in the first place.
    No. What you are talking about is strictly, and blindly, following the rules. Im talking about using common sense, ie, Wlad is a much, much more worthy challenger than Glazkov and they should kicked Glazcov to the curb until the rematch had taken place.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Tom Cruise
      If they were enforcing decent mandatories then I would. They lacked common sense in the Fury situation big time. Fury just beat their long reigning champion and had a rematch clause, the ibf just needed to chill and give Fury some time.

      All the orgs should be clamouring to wrap their belt around the recognised best fighter in the division. How can I respect the IBF belt when its being held by the winner of Glazcov vs Martin ffs?

      Thats why I dont mind that the WBC is basically disregarding their rules to put GGG as their mando. He's the best fighter in the division, the clear no.1 challenger, he should be the one in line to fight for the belt. Not that the WBC is doing it for moral reasons or anything, but means to an end and all that.

      So yeah respect for following rules, i guess. But maybe they should try making it so their rules end up with the best fighter in each division holding their belt.
      That's not Glazkov's proble, look at it from his point of view, why would/should he care and delay his chance by a year?

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        #23
        Originally posted by saint laurent
        If they were strictly and blindly following the rules, Klitschko would have been stripped for facing Fury to begin with as the IBF mandatory was overdue. They made an exception on the condition that the Klitschko-Fury winner immediately face the IBF mandatory.

        Fury then secretly sold Klitschko a rematch clause and hid it from the IBF.

        Kicking Glazkov to the curb would result in a lawsuit and the IBF ultimately owing millions of dollars.

        You're not using common sense at all. You're being manipulated by the way Fury presented the facts publicly, when the truth clearly vindicates the IBF.

        Fury was a mandatory challenger. There was absolutely no need for a rematch clause. He knew the IBF mandatory was due. He sold Klitschko the rematch clause because he didn't think he was going to win.
        Yeah good post. Fury signed a rematch clause because the rematch is the biggest money fight out there for him.

        It's no big deal imo, Fury is the real HW champion and everyone knows it, not Martin or Glazkov.

        I'm hoping that Wilder/Povetkin fights the winner of Glazkov/Martin, "unifies" the two belts, then fights Fury for all of them.

        Imagine Fury-Wilder for all the belts, the hype and build-up would be epic!!

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          #24
          It's cool that they mandate their champions to fight, but their rankings are a joke usually. For a stretch, K9 was the eternal mando. He'd lose, be next up and was kept in rotation.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Hougigo
            It's cool that they mandate their champions to fight, but their rankings are a joke usually. For a stretch, K9 was the eternal mando. He'd lose, be next up and was kept in rotation.
            True, look at the bums they keep lining up for Brook.

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              #26
              People attacking the IBF remember Fury was never the mandatory to Wlad , Fury got the fight because once again tv networks keep getting in the way of mandatory fights..

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                #27
                Originally posted by 285Kid
                People attacking the IBF remember Fury was never the mandatory to Wlad , Fury got the fight because once again tv networks keep getting in the way of mandatory fights..
                Fury was the WBO mando
                You mean he wasn't the IBF mando?

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                  #28
                  Rules were made to be broken. Just ask Floyd.

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                    #29
                    No, the fury situation was the height of ******ity. We had a long reigning champ defeated by a mandatory with a rematch clause in place. Who the **** in their right mind then goes and strips the new champ for having said rematch? Combine that with the fact that their rankings are atrocious and no, I don't see why they should be getting any kudos.
                    Last edited by Daddy T; 01-04-2016, 09:00 AM.

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                    • Tom Cruise
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Box-Office
                      That's not Glazkov's proble, look at it from his point of view, why would/should he care and delay his chance by a year?
                      Why should I give a crap about Glazcov? He hasnt done anything to earn a title shot, he is just barely a top 10 fighter. The IBF had no reason to rank him highly or install him as mandatory. He's a nobody on the level we are talking about.

                      Originally posted by saint laurent
                      If they were strictly and blindly following the rules, Klitschko would have been stripped for facing Fury to begin with as the IBF mandatory was overdue. They made an exception on the condition that the Klitschko-Fury winner immediately face the IBF mandatory.

                      Fury then secretly sold Klitschko a rematch clause and hid it from the IBF.

                      Kicking Glazkov to the curb would result in a lawsuit and the IBF ultimately owing millions of dollars.

                      You're not using common sense at all. You're being manipulated by the way Fury presented the facts publicly, when the truth clearly vindicates the IBF.

                      Fury was a mandatory challenger. There was absolutely no need for a rematch clause. He knew the IBF mandatory was due. He sold Klitschko the rematch clause because he didn't think he was going to win.
                      The other Sanctioning orgs do it all the time, why cant the IBF? They wouldnt even be in this situation if they didnt have god awful rankings.

                      Glazcov is a nobody. He doesnt deserve a title, he hasnt earned a title, he isnt good enough to be considered a champion, he doesnt bring in money, he has no leverage. Kick him to the curb and wait for the Klit vs Fury rematch (which is clearly the best fight for Fury right now as Wlad is the no.1 contender by default).

                      Common sense says that Fury has done nothing wrong. Now the IBF belt will be being passed around a bunch of losers like $2 hooker when it could be around the waist of the legitimate, lineal HW champ. Their decision makes no sense other than as a way to blindly follow their bs rules.

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