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  • DreamerUSA
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    #31
    Originally posted by ИATAS
    I agree about following their rules but also agree with others the Fury situation was a bad deal since Klitschko had a rematch clause in the contract. That should be taken under consideration as well as the opponent, it's Klitschko who hadn't lost in 11 years not some random fighter.

    Their rankings are also pretty whacky so we end up with pretty worthless mandatories like Karo Murat and Nadjib Mohammedi at 175 for example. It seems they are a little too quick to fill spots by having some really poor eliminator fights. It would be better to take a little more time and simply have empty slots if needed, instead of filling them in as quickly as possible.
    The blame can't just be layed at the IBF's feet. It was no secret that the IBF mandatory was due and that the IBF does'nt recognise rematch clauses. ****ty situation, but I prefer they follow their rules rather than act like the WBC/WBA, who do whatever they feel like doing when it is making them the most dollars.

    As for the rankings. Most if not all of the sanctioning bodie's ranking systems are pretty terrible. That said the blame is'nt all on them. A recent example is them trying to get an eliminator between Khan and Bradley, but Khan apparently wanted no parts of it. Whats the point of having the right guys ranked high if they won't fight each other? There is plenty of blame to go around. From the fighters to the promoters, managers, networks, and sanctioning bodies.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Daddy T
      No, the fury situation was the height of ******ity. We had a long reigning champ defeated by a mandatory with a rematch clause in place. Who the **** in their right mind then goes and strips the new champ for having said rematch? Combine that with the fact that their rankings are atrocious and no, I don't see why they should be getting any kudos.
      IBF rules clearly state that they do not recognize rematch clauses, and that only a unification bout can trump a mandatory defense that is due.

      One of the biggest problems the sport has is when sanctioning organizations just make **** up as they go along, usually doing only that which suits their bank account the best. Sure, the rankings situations with the IBF arent always ideal, but they can only issue mandatory designations to those fighters willing to fight an eliminator bout, as opposed to just saying "oh we can smell a nickel so (insert popular fighter name here) you are the mandatory".....

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      • sicko
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        #33
        Actually, IBF is probably the most organized out of the Belt Organization. They seems to stay on top of Mandatory's regardless who is champion and I'm also a big fan of their rehydration rule which only allow fighters to rehydrate 10 lbs Max the next day

        Yeah the Fury situation could've been handled better though

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          #34
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          IBF rules clearly state that they do not recognize rematch clauses, and that only a unification bout can trump a mandatory defense that is due.

          One of the biggest problems the sport has is when sanctioning organizations just make **** up as they go along, usually doing only that which suits their bank account the best. Sure, the rankings situations with the IBF arent always ideal, but they can only issue mandatory designations to those fighters willing to fight an eliminator bout, as opposed to just saying "oh we can smell a nickel so (insert popular fighter name here) you are the mandatory".....
          Common sense should have prevailed in the the Fury situation.

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            #35
            Originally posted by nivek535
            they really force their mandatories regardless of the $ involved.
            fury had to vacate his title, many others are pressed to fight their mandatories too.
            good stuff.
            They enforce their rules but their rankings are horrible.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Daddy T
              Common sense should have prevailed in the the Fury situation.
              common sense DID apply on both sides. Fury decided the money he got from klitschko for the rematch clause was more important to him than keeping the ibf belt, and the ibf felt that their rules were not going to be spat upon just so Fury could make a few extra bucks......

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                #37
                Originally posted by sicko
                Actually, IBF is probably the most organized out of the Belt Organization. They seems to stay on top of Mandatory's regardless who is champion and I'm also a big fan of their rehydration rule which only allow fighters to rehydrate 10 lbs Max the next day

                Yeah the Fury situation could've been handled better though
                ITs not just Fury though. At WW Brook pulled Chavez out from the top of the IBFrankings and took him as a voluntary, then Brook got injured (legit or not thats the official line) and before they could rearrange the Chavez fight the IBF had installed Bizier as mando and basically cancelled Brooks voluntary.

                Another example where common sense shows the IBF is in the wrong, but they instead followed the rules to the letter and we end up with a much worse fight. Not only that but Chavez ended up with no title shot when he should have been next in line.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by nivek535
                  they really force their mandatories regardless of the $ involved.
                  fury had to vacate his title, many others are pressed to fight their mandatories too.
                  good stuff.
                  But what is the quality of the mandatories? It's mostly guys that pay their way into the rankings, we all know that. I would have preferred Fury keeping the belt and the IBF allowing him an extension for the big Wlad fight but I guess they want some extra money and they'll get that by having a separate title and possible unifications with the WBC.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    But what is the quality of the mandatories? It's mostly guys that pay their way into the rankings, we all know that. I would have preferred Fury keeping the belt and the IBF allowing him an extension for the big Wlad fight but I guess they want some extra money and they'll get that by having a separate title and possible unifications with the WBC.
                    thats simply ******ed. To think that the IBF would make more money on a 3% sanction fee on Glasgov-Martin than they would on Fury-Klitschko is just moronic.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                      Why should I give a crap about Glazcov? He hasnt done anything to earn a title shot, he is just barely a top 10 fighter. The IBF had no reason to rank him highly or install him as mandatory. He's a nobody on the level we are talking about.
                      That's exactly what I mean, why should he do the same for boxing fans or rematch clauses.

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