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Is Ducking & Cherrypicking the IN THING now in American Boxing culture?

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  • #51
    Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
    I repeat, Deontay Wilder has defeated more top-3 ranked contenders in his career (1) than Golovkin has in his (0).
    That's a cute way to try distort reality. How many top 10 guys has Wilder fought (1) compared to Golovkin (9)? Yeah. Did Wilder get turned down by the lineal champ three times? Has 5 different title holders rejected a fight with Wilder? Right.

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    • #52
      Yea of course it is. The good thing is it's become so prevalent that it's damaged the sport. Boxers are realizing this and tapping into that frustration with paying fans. Now a days we are starting to see a sentiment with boxers branding themselves as no smoke and mirrors, I'll fight anybody mentality. No ****** side shows and false ego's.
      For instance I see this in guys like:
      Errol Spence
      Tim Bradley
      Gennady Golovkin
      Canelo Alvarez
      Sergey Kovalev
      Shawn Porter

      They really can't get away with this con artist shtick selling crap to paying casuals anymore. With this media age, even casuals are a lot more aware of what's going on. I mean for instance this site. All this information and dirty laundry a fighter might have is all accessible online. Guys like Spence and Porter know it's just a h*ll of a lot easier not having an alter ego and simply just doing their jobs like professionals who take pride in their craft and legacy.

      You look at Broner in recent months and his sort of falling out with Floyd and TMT. He is starting to realize Floyd's pathetic and 0 substance having business ethics. After Floyd took shots at Broner for fighting a "gimme fight" Broner lashed back saying "you're the one who taught me this". And from there he realized the ceiling TMT places on it's fighters because they will forever be under Floyd's shadow and kicking up checks to him.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
        That's a cute way to try distort reality. How many top 10 guys has Wilder fought (1) compared to Golovkin (9)? Yeah. Did Wilder get turned down by the lineal champ three times? Has 5 different title holders rejected a fight with Wilder? Right.
        I distorted reality by posting a fact? Golovkin is 33 years old and has never fought a top-3 contender. There's no distortion there, that's just a fact.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
          That's a cute way to try distort reality. How many top 10 guys has Wilder fought (1) compared to Golovkin (9)? Yeah. Did Wilder get turned down by the lineal champ three times? Has 5 different title holders rejected a fight with Wilder? Right.
          Natas cleaning house.

          I wasn't challenging the little twit on his statement. I figured there is a smidgen of truth to it statistically. Why go tit for tat.

          This is how politicians (Governors) running for president spin the truth when they say that their state was the biggest job creator in the last 5 months (not 10, not 20, but 5), while their state is ranked the lowest in job creation overall.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
            Every fighters situation is different and a person must follow the sport. Plus you have the politics behind boxing with fans and boxing organizations.
            People call Stevenson a ducker because he didn't like HBO's offer for the Kovalev fight. However Manny turned down the biggest garunteed purse in boxing twice yet somehow Floyd is the ducker. People cried for Broner to move up division after division yet it's cancerous for GGG to move up one division. Too many inconsistencies in boxing to take this sport seriously anymore. Same goes for NSB.
            Stfu boy! U twisting history for your kitty...but it's not going to do it for us...first n foremost piece of sh it ducked Hopkins then krusher than pascal, tell me y the lineal lhw hasn't fought any of these guys boy? U definitely has floyds pecker in ur mouth if u still defend him...nobody asks broner to move up, he's a ss can't stay down bi tch...here's ur drink

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            • #56
              Originally posted by BreWall View Post
              What a ****** poster. He's basically saying mismatches are okay, yet forget the fact that it's dangerous for the Salka part of the fight. If you're going to express concern over these fighters, then supporting mismatches will not make it consistent.
              No I'm saying for a fighter if you want him to take the tough fighters you will have to pay him accordingly which explains the ridiculous offer from GGG Team to Billy Joe Sauders who is not even worthy of that type of pay but that is how desperate GGG is for a big match up

              Nobody said anything about Mismatches being OK but who are you and who am I to tell a fighter what he should or shouldn't make? You not the one getting hit and taking punishment.

              Bottom Line, get as much as you can every time because any fight can be your very last, that is how brutal this sport is.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by sicko View Post
                No I'm saying for a fighter if you want him to take the tough fighters you will have to pay him accordingly which explains the ridiculous offer from GGG Team to Billy Joe Sauders who is not even worthy of that type of pay but that is how desperate GGG is for a big match up

                Nobody said anything about Mismatches being OK but who are you and who am I to tell a fighter what he should or shouldn't make? You not the one getting hit and taking punishment.

                Bottom Line, get as much as you can every time because any fight can be your very last, that is how brutal this sport is.
                Why do you enjoy your favorite elite fighters delivering brain concussing punches on cherry picked, non-elite, inferior opposition?

                You are an evil sadist.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Cupo303 View Post
                  Why do you enjoy your favorite elite fighters delivering brain concussing punches on cherry picked, non-elite, inferior opposition?

                  You are an evil sadist.
                  Somebody has A LOT of free time to troll hard today I see

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
                    People cried for Broner to move up division after division yet it's cancerous for GGG to move up one division. Too many inconsistencies in boxing to take this sport seriously anymore. Same goes for NSB.
                    Nobody asked Broner to move up doe. There was still Vasquez and Abril waiting for him. So he moved up, big deal. But he fought semi-retired and dilapidated Malignaggi doe, not the #2 P4P.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by sicko View Post
                      Somebody has A LOT of free time to troll hard today I see

                      You were very concerned with the health and well being of elite boxers who are supposed to fight equally elite opposition, but apparently don't have to do so unless they're being properly compensated for it.

                      What about the little guy? The B and C level opponent who takes the brunt of their punishment while they avoid the guy who they're supposed to face.

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