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  • #31
    Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
    Roman and Golovkin's resume combined isn't better than Bradley's. Gonzalez has two good wins, Yaegashi and Estrada. The rest of his resume is filled with past it 36 year olds, prospects and journeymen. His whole Nicaguarian resume should be chunked out the window. Those fights were a joke. Golovkin has never beat a top 3 opponent in his division. Bradley has beat Holt, Alexander, Witter, JMM, Abregu, Peterson, and Pacquiao. He beat them all when they were in their prime. Bradley's resume sh^ts on any fighter not named Mayweather. This is why I stopped taking p4p list seriously. Any list that doesn't include Bradley is a joke.
    You're so bias it's shameful.

    1. GGG beat #2 ranked Geale is 2014.

    2.Gonzales is good and just because you jack knowledge of the lower weight classes doesn't mean you can dismiss comp.

    3. Bradley does has a good resume and it ranked P4P like he should be. The only boxer who has a better resume is Manny.

    4. P4P isn't resume based.

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    • #32
      yes i do.

      wilder
      the guy that beat huck by upset ko
      stevenson
      fonfara
      jacobs
      charlo A
      charlo B
      lara
      danny garcia
      thurman
      broner

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      • #33
        P4P isn't only resume, but skills displayed as well. That's why Lomenchenko is on there, even though his biggest win is over TRex (GRJ). It's the visual proof of skill that puts him on the list.

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        • #34
          Well since P4P Rankings are just all opinions I can't go by others P4P Rankings because it is Politics in all of them especially RING!

          PBC have plenty of YOUNG guys who will ultimately invade most P4P Rankings very soon. I'm seen P4P rankings change complete over 1 Weekend.

          But arguments can certainly be made for Lara, Thurman, James DeGale but a lot of PBC top guys are YOUNG and working their way up. If they live up to their potential then they will start to break into those P4P Rankings

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          • #35
            No. I don't.

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            • #36
              Only Danny Garcia. It is rather amazing over 200 fighters and not one on the P4P list and even from unbiased outlets this holds true.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
                You're so bias it's shameful.

                1. GGG beat #2 ranked Geale is 2014.

                2.Gonzales is good and just because you jack knowledge of the lower weight classes doesn't mean you can dismiss comp.

                3. Bradley does has a good resume and it ranked P4P like he should be. The only boxer who has a better resume is Manny.

                4. P4P isn't resume based.
                And that's why the lists are ******. Fighters who look good against lesser competition are rewarded over fighters who don't look as impressive against tougher competition. That makes no sense. That's like a college football team making it to the college playoffs by beating the likes of DeVry University.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
                  And that's why the lists are ******. Fighters who look good against lesser competition are rewarded over fighters who don't look as impressive against tougher competition. That makes no sense. That's like a college football team making it to the college playoffs by beating the likes of DeVry University.
                  You can't use a fighters entire resume to base his P4P legitimacy, it's a combination of factors but ranking Danny based on a win 2 years ago is asinine. He has looked like **** since. Guys like GGG and Gonzales are fighting top ten and blowing though them. Danny isn't.

                  And unfortunately level of competition beaten is subjective. I see guys like you who considered Paulie M and Herrera good wins but call Geale a bum and Geale the most accomplish of the three.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
                    You can't use a fighters entire resume to base his P4P legitimacy, it's a combination of factors but ranking Danny based on a win 2 years ago is asinine. He has looked like **** since. Guys like GGG and Gonzales are fighting top ten and blowing though them. Danny isn't.

                    And unfortunately level of competition beaten is subjective. I see guys like you who considered Paulie M and Herrera good wins but call Geale a bum and Geale the most accomplish of the three.
                    I'm not talking about Danny Garcia. I'm talking about Bradley. But since you want to bring up Danny's 2012, Roman's best win came in 2012! He's moved up the P4P list despite having only one good win since 2012. Since 2012 Bradley has beat Pacquiao, Provodnikov, and JMM. How can anyone say Roman's resume over that period deserves to put him above Bradley? Bradley has the 3rd best resume in boxing with his only loss coming against Pacquiao. Kovalev's wins over Pascal and Hopkins are better than GGG and Roman's resume put together. Like I said, P4P lists are a joke.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
                      And that's why the lists are ******. Fighters who look good against lesser competition are rewarded over fighters who don't look as impressive against tougher competition. That makes no sense. That's like a college football team making it to the college playoffs by beating the likes of DeVry University.
                      Truth to all of this. The P4P list is arguably the 3rd dumbest thing in boxing behind anything alphabet group related & the mismatched, uncompetitive fights commissions sanction daily (respect to NV who've been putting their foot down more lately, but I'd like to see this on a wider level in less meaningful fights too).

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