Do YOU consider any PBC fighter to be top 10 p4p?

[hit_the_streets]

I'd say Danny is borderline top 10 but let's be real, beating Robert Guerrero isn't going to get him there. Robert looked washed up against Aaron freakin Martinez and he hasn't looked impressive since winning the Mayweather sweepstakes in 2013. Danny should fight porter, thurman, or even rematch peterson. You'd think these fights would be easy to make.

[SilverMiles]

I'm not talking about Danny Garcia. I'm talking about Bradley. But since you want to bring up Danny's 2012, Roman's best win came in 2012! He's moved up the P4P list despite having only one good win since 2012. Since 2012 Bradley has beat Pacquiao, Provodnikov, and JMM. How can anyone say Roman's resume over that period deserves to put him above Bradley? Bradley has the 3rd best resume in boxing with his only loss coming against Pacquiao. Kovalev's wins over Pascal and Hopkins are better than GGG and Roman's resume put together. Like I said, P4P lists are a joke.

Roman has beaten Yaeshi and Viloria since that time and you keep basing everything on resume. Your performance means a lot as well. Bradley is one of my favs and is in my top ten. But all those fights where considered close (except Rios) and Gonzales has blown through top ten fighters, barely losing a round in the process.

You have to take into account the opponent, the performance and the magnitude of the victory in that division.

And while Hopkins is honestly had no chance against Kovalev and has been feasting on low level comp since losing to Dawson. Pascal is good but I rank Estrada, Viloria, and Murray over him at this point.

[about.thousands]

Roman has beaten Yaeshi and Viloria since that time and you keep basing everything on resume. Your performance means a lot as well. Bradley is one of my favs and is in my top ten. But all those fights where considered close (except Rios) and Gonzales has blown through top ten fighters, barely losing a round in the process.

You have to take into account the opponent, the performance and the magnitude of the victory in that division.

And while Hopkins is honestly had no chance against Kovalev and has been feasting on low level comp since losing to Dawson. Pascal is good but I rank Estrada, Viloria, and Murray over him at this point.

Of course they were close because of the level of competition. That's my whole point! Yaegashi was a good win but it's not like he hadn't been beat before Gonzalez. Bradley gave Alexander, Abregu and Peterson their first loss. Went up to 147 to beat Abregu and back down to 140 to beat Alexander. Abregu went on to give Delorme his first loss and didn't lose again until Sadam Ali beat him last year. JMM was coming off his KO win over Pacquiao. When Roman stepped up in competition the fight was closer than his previous fights. Beating Viloria would've been impressive in 2011 but the man is 35 and in the twilight of his career. Bradley was beating guys in their primes. The fight against Hopkins was a unification fight. Not now, or no time in his career has/is Martin Murray better than Hopkins. Don't be silly. Estrada is good and the fight was competitive, he deserves all the credit in the world for that fight but he can't keep feasting off a fight from 2012. His level of competition has dropped significantly since that fight but he's moved up p4p lists? P4P lists are a joke.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Of course they were close because of the level of competition. That's my whole point! Yaegashi was a good win but it's not like he hadn't been beat before Gonzalez. Bradley gave Alexander, Abregu and Peterson their first loss. Went up to 147 to beat Abregu and back down to 140 to beat Alexander. Abregu went on to give Delorme his first loss and didn't lose again until Sadam Ali beat him last year. JMM was coming off his KO win over Pacquiao. When Roman stepped up in competition the fight was closer than his previous fights. Beating Viloria would've been impressive in 2011 but the man is 35 and in the twilight of his career. Bradley was beating guys in their primes. The fight against Hopkins was a unification fight. Not now, or no time in his career has/is Martin Murray better than Hopkins. Don't be silly. Estrada is good and the fight was competitive, he deserves all the credit in the world for that fight but he can't keep feasting off a fight from 2012. His level of competition has dropped significantly since that fight but he's moved up p4p lists? P4P lists are a joke.

There's not many boxers who are exactly taking hard fights each and every single time.

By this logic, Ward and Rigondeaux should be completely off the list. Same for Danny Garcia. Peterson doesn't make up for him fighting Paulie and Salka.

[Motofan]

Garcia should have about three losses right now.

[about.thousands]

There's not many boxers who are exactly taking hard fights each and every single time.

By this logic, Ward and Rigondeaux should be completely off the list. Same for Danny Garcia. Peterson doesn't make up for him fighting Paulie and Salka.

I'm talking about Bradley and ya'll keep bringing up Garcia and Ward!?!

[Santa_]

Leo Santa Cruz. That's about it, maybe Danny Garcia.

[SilverMiles]

Of course they were close because of the level of competition. That's my whole point! Yaegashi was a good win but it's not like he hadn't been beat before Gonzalez. Bradley gave Alexander, Abregu and Peterson their first loss. Went up to 147 to beat Abregu and back down to 140 to beat Alexander. Abregu went on to give Delorme his first loss and didn't lose again until Sadam Ali beat him last year. JMM was coming off his KO win over Pacquiao. When Roman stepped up in competition the fight was closer than his previous fights. Beating Viloria would've been impressive in 2011 but the man is 35 and in the twilight of his career. Bradley was beating guys in their primes. The fight against Hopkins was a unification fight. Not now, or no time in his career has/is Martin Murray better than Hopkins. Don't be silly. Estrada is good and the fight was competitive, he deserves all the credit in the world for that fight but he can't keep feasting off a fight from 2012. His level of competition has dropped significantly since that fight but he's moved up p4p lists? P4P lists are a joke.

You have a hard time comprehending the the concept of P4P. you keep wanting to compare resumes. It's not a resume comparison test. You keep bringing up wins for 5 years ago, those wins don't matter when comes to P4P ranking today. You have to use more recent fights, check the level of comp, the fighters performance, and the way they won.

Bradley isn't ranked over Gonzales because he hasn't looked as good as Gonzakes in the past 1 or 2 years. Honestly not many have.

P4P is and will always be who would win a fight between two fighters if they were the same size. So in this case it's Bradley vs Gonzales.

[about.thousands]

You have a hard time comprehending the the concept of P4P. you keep wanting to compare resumes. It's not a resume comparison test. You keep bringing up wins for 5 years ago, those wins don't matter when comes to P4P ranking today. You have to use more recent fights, check the level of comp, the fighters performance, and the way they won.

Bradley isn't ranked over Gonzales because he hasn't looked as good as Gonzakes in the past 1 or 2 years. Honestly not many have.

P4P is and will always be who would win a fight between two fighters if they were the same size. So in this case it's Bradley vs Gonzales.

He hasn't looked as good because he's fought better competition. When Bradley fought lesser competition, Rios and Vargas, he looked good. How are you not understanding that?

[-DSG-]

Garcia should have about three losses right now.

I think you mean Canelo😄