Do YOU consider any PBC fighter to be top 10 p4p?

[SilverMiles]

He hasn't looked as good because he's fought better competition. When Bradley fought lesser competition, Rios and Vargas, he looked good. How are you not understanding that?

That's absolute bull, Bradley has fought Rios, Vargas, and Chaves now tell me how that is so much better than Viloria and Yaeshi?

P4P Gonzales is the man right now, he's in his prime let him enjoy his moment.

If you were arguing career status and HOF eligibility I would agree with Bradley over Gonzales. But P4P, head to head in 2016 I would put my money on Gonzales over Bradley and many other fighters.

[-Kev-]

Most likely because they are not being matched up in tough fights that truly determine their worth on the scale of a PFP ranking. They may have a few competitive fights sprinkled here and there, but none really among their top talents and most recognizable names.

Golovkin hasn't fought anyone tough either, other than Murray. But he's ranked what, #2-3?

[about.thousands]

That's absolute bull, Bradley has fought Rios, Vargas, and Chaves now tell me how that is so much better than Viloria and Yaeshi?

P4P Gonzales is the man right now, he's in his prime let him enjoy his moment.

If you were arguing career status and HOF eligibility I would agree with Bradley over Gonzales. But P4P, head to head in 2016 I would put my money on Gonzales over Bradley and many other fighters.

If resume doesn't matter why are you trying to justify his position over Bradley by using Roman's resume? And yes the Vargas that Bradley beat is better than a 35 year old past prime Viloria in the twilight of his career.

[HeroBando]

Golovkin hasn't fought anyone tough either, other than Murray. But he's ranked what, #2-3?

He's dominating a weight class though. These other guys aren't even clear cut #1 in their division, much less dominant

[A.K]

you gotta be a plain hater if you dont think pbc biggest star keith thurman aint p4p top 10..

[Aztekkas]

He's dominating a weight class though. These other guys aren't even clear cut #1 in their division, much less dominant

Excellent post. Also, PFP is a very subjective list and a lot of it depends on the "eye test" as well. Far too many variables involved. However, one thing is for certain, a lot of it depends on the dominance displayed in the ring. GGG may not be fighting elite fighters, but he is beating down some decent names in a dominant fashion. Atleast, dominant enough to zoom past fighters under the PBC banner whom have even looked pedestrian against sub par opposition.

[mathed]

I actually do have Garcia in my top 10.

Who has a better resume than he does at 140? He beat Khan, Matthysse and Peterson (technically at WW since it was a CW). That alone is grounds for P4P, however since most organizations are biased against Haymon/PBC, they refuse to acknowledge Garcia's P4P status. They'll never forgive him for the Salka fight. It's almost as if Salka is on their minds more than the boogeyman Matthysse who Garcia steamrolled.

Garcia is a fraud and Hymen's strategy for building up stars only makes them look like money grubbing lames out for the cake walk fights. Sure Garcia swelled up Matts' eye with the "phantom punch" but he ran like hell from a rematch because he knew "magic" wasn't going to happen twice. Dude got his ass beat in the Peterson fight and outboxed to the hilt in the Harrera bout.

God Salka doe....yeah, that was AMAZING!!

[Aztekkas]

you gotta be a plain hater if you dont think pbc biggest star keith thurman aint p4p top 10..

The same Thurman whom didn't impress against Bundu, allowed a wasted Guerrero to resurge in the fight and nearly folded against a past it Collazo? Yeah, no. If disagreeing with you makes me a hater in your eyes...sign me up, I would gladly accept such a label before placing Thurman anywhere near my PFP list

[Jubei]

PBC has like 200 fighters, they all make a ton of money, but all fight bum after bum and obviously none of them are in the Top 10 P4P.

[A.K]

The same Thurman whom didn't impress against Bundu, allowed a wasted Guerrero to resurge in the fight and nearly folded against a past it Collazo? Yeah, no. If disagreeing with you makes me a hater in your eyes...sign me up, I would gladly accept such a label before placing Thurman anywhere near my PFP list

you acting like those guys are push overs.. and thurman won 9 rounds in each of those fights...