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  • #21
    Originally posted by Hougigo View Post
    Oh yea, I mean that's when he started though, with Scott IMO. Everyone after him were levels above opposition wise. So Scott, Stiverne, Molina, Dunlap and Szpilka.

    IMO, HW isn't that deep yet, but they now have talent rising in the division to get excited about.
    Molina/Dunlap aren't outstanding, but compared to Wilder's early comp pre-Scott, they'd most likely smash them

    Like some of them were 40 year old retired fighters or, IIRC, Civic teachers and bread makers... or Brick Layer.
    Oh ok I follow you.

    Yeah it's true his opposition was woeful originally. But he's fought a few solid guys and one good guy. Not fantastic though of course.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Hougigo View Post
      Oh yea, I mean that's when he started though, with Scott IMO. Everyone after him were levels above opposition wise. So Scott, Stiverne, Molina, Dunlap and Szpilka.

      IMO, HW isn't that deep yet, but they now have talent rising in the division to get excited about.
      Molina/Dunlap aren't outstanding, but compared to Wilder's early comp pre-Scott, they'd most likely smash them

      Like some of them were 40 year old retired fighters or, IIRC, Civic teachers and bread makers... or Brick Layer.
      Molina was a terrible defence, but Duhaupas (Dunlap lol) was a pretty solid fighter who'd given Charr and Teper very close fights, beating Charr and losing narrowly to Teper. He was on a similar level to someone like Christian Hammer, IMO, a decent challenge if you weren't on your game but not someone to pose a major threat otherwise.

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      • #23
        Stiverne for sure had a pulse. And I think he's done what a lot of young title holders or title holders that had a suspect road to a title do in fighting lesser viewed for a title holder opposition, but still better opposition than he'd fought previously to get seasoned while a title holder if you will.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
          Stiverne for sure had a pulse. And I think he's done what a lot of young title holders or title holders that had a suspect road to a title do in fighting lesser viewed for a title holder opposition, but still better opposition than he'd fought previously to get seasoned while a title holder if you will.
          The Stiverne fight was the first time I was really impressed with Wilder. I'd picked Stiverne to win and considered Wilder to be an uneducated brawler, but he boxed beautifully and showed great understanding of angles and distancing. It was masterful the way he shortened up his right to break through Stiverne's guard, then came over the top to catch him behind the gloves. Jab was on point too.

          Wilder's regressed a little since then, but I get the feeling he's a fighter who fights to the level of his competition, so I have no doubt we'll see the best of him when/if he fights Povetkin.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Fury4daWIN View Post
            I get the feeling he's a fighter who fights to the level of his competition, so I have no doubt we'll see the best of him when/if he fights Povetkin.
            Tend to agree off of his title winning performance. I think how he does vs Povetkin will prove or disprove that theory cuz Povetkin will for sure be his best opponent & the Wilder who fought Molina would have a bad night vs Povetkin.

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            • #26
              Personally I think he beats Povetkin and from what I understand he's fighting him next.

              Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Povetkin the one postponing this fight? I remember he ducked Wladimir for a couple of years.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                I agree with you on all points.

                I'm just dying to see Fury vs Wilder.
                I just hope that it's a unification bout when it happens.

                I don't give Wilder that much of a chance either, but stylistically it's a great fight, and the Wilder fanbois need to see that beating in order to admit the truth.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
                  I've seen it as high as 1/16 and as low as 1/10
                  Hmm... so the TS is right. Wilder's next fight has no pulse, as usual.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
                    Hmm... so the TS is right. Wilder's next fight has no pulse, as usual.

                    I think it has a lot to do with Glazkov pulling out and this guy is the replacement. If he had a full camp the odds would be closer.

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                    • #30
                      wilder's fighting a guy that was ko'd by jennings while jennings was on his way up the ladder. this is world champion stuff alright.

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