If Pacquiao Didn't Get KOd By Marquez... Mayweather vs Pacquiao Never Happens?

[FlatLine]

As is often the case for fighters early in their careers when they're still learning the ropes, opponents are picked and chosen carefully and tactically at precise times either when they're fading or if they were in a compromised physical condition due to some issue with the weight or following a long period of inactivity.

Mayweather extended this strategy well beyond his infancy as a pro and carried it throughout the vast majority of his career with few exceptions. It was clever strategy, let's be real and it's this highly tactical matchmaking which may have been one of the primary reasons Floyd had been propelled to the top of the boxing world.

So the question needs to be raised: If Marquez hadn't KOd Pacquiao in such devastating fashion, would Mayweather vs Pacquiao have even taken place as yet, or would Mayweather still be waiting until Pacquiao finally appeared to be noticeably faded and vulnerable?

[hugh grant]

PAC is stii Floyd's best win, which shows how bad a cherry picker Floyd has been.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Disagree..

They would have still fought. Too much money, plus CBS/showtime forced the issue on floyd.. They didn't give him all that money to fight ghost, Maidana, Berto.. They wanted Canelo and manny fights..

Gobs of money will unite any rivals- even manny, arum, roach, haymon, floyd, showtime, hbo, roger, sr, koncz

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Mayweather wouldent care if Pacman got iced or not he was still gonna cheat against him (IV 750ml) and collect that 100+ milli.

You think mayweather cares if people knows or thinks he is a cheater or rather that that 100million+

[hectari]

If I were Floyd just knock Pacquiao out, dude is such a chicken **** in the ring its not even funny, he had a washed up slowed down already been ko has been in there with one good arm yet fought scared, dude throw some blows and put the dude out thats how you are supposed to do to washed up fighters.

Whoever Pacquiao fights next, that guy if its Crawford or Broner or Bradley will show Floyd how you dispose of a shot fighter.

[The Big Dunn]

Your point is correct but your supporting evidence is wrong.

Manny turned the fight down in 09 and then again right before Floyd went to jail. JMM 4 fight was the classic "cherrypick gone wrong". Manny made that fight instead of Floyd for $40 mil, no ppv, which turned out to be the smart business move in hindsight. Manny finally accepted to fight Floyd because the PPV's after the JMM KO undersold.

It was obvious that TR had exhausted the Manny v "easy opponent" or Manny v "guy Floyd beat" models so there was no option other than fighting Floyd. Had fans supported Rios, Bradley 2, or Algieri to Bob's satisfaction, Manny and he would've passed on the fight again.

As 2015 comes to an end, I think the Floyd/Manny debates should as well.

[Zaroku]

What a devestating KO it was!!!!

Gonna re watch it to make sure Manny lived!

OMG!!!

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Your point is correct but your supporting evidence is wrong.

Manny turned the fight down in 09 and then again right before Floyd went to jail. JMM 4 fight was the classic "cherrypick gone wrong". Manny made that fight instead of Floyd for $40 mil, no ppv, which turned out to be the smart business move in hindsight. Manny finally accepted to fight Floyd because the PPV's after the JMM KO undersold.

It was obvious that TR had exhausted the Manny v "easy opponent" or Manny v "guy Floyd beat" models so there was no option other than fighting Floyd. Had fans supported Rios, Bradley 2, or Algieri to Bob's satisfaction, Manny and he would've passed on the fight again.

As 2015 comes to an end, I think the Floyd/Manny debates should as well.

I don't know about this--- none of those fights were exactly easy. Pacquiao could have easily passed on Marquez for someone easier and less dangerous.

Heck, the fight before Pacquiao probably should have lost.

[IronDanHamza]

Well I'm not sure because Floyd was still scared to death of him and avoiding him for the entirety of 2013 and 2014 all the way up to when the fight was signed in 2015 according to everyone on here plus the media so I think maybe, yes.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't know about this--- none of those fights were exactly easy. Pacquiao could have easily passed on Marquez for someone easier and less dangerous.

Heck, the fight before Pacquiao probably should have lost.

Manny took the lesser of 2 evils-JMM a 4th time (he was 2-0-1 with the draw because of the bad scoring).Yes, JMM and Manny had great fights. JMM was a tough opponent for Manny and IMO won the 3rd fight.

JMM was never going to be tougher for Manny then Floyd given Floyd is faster, heavier and has a longer reach than JMM, while being the superior boxer.

He did "lose" the fight before, just not IMO.

I get that we will always see threads like this since Floyd won because posters love taking something away from the victory.