Chris Eubank Jr leaves Eddie Hearn!

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  • gmc_rfc_06
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    #41
    Originally posted by sicko
    Forget the purse bid, the real question is, why is he trying to fight Blackwell anyway? The problem Matchroom is going to have is what will happen once these guys are ready to take that next step and make Big Money, how will he keep them all happy. He has a great Roster of young British Talent no doubt but I question how he will keep them all happy especially when they will look across the pond and see guys rated lower than them in their Division making way more money

    I know last week Barry Hearn was saying how British fighters don't need to leave the UK and how American fighters will need to go to the UK. Not if you can't even win Purse Bids they don't! lol
    He doesn't want to fight Blackwell per se, he wants the British title before it's too late and he goes to world level. Blackwell just happens to have the belt.

    'I'm British through and through. I feel it's very important to win the British title.'

    He's already mandatory for Jacobs' world title, he's got a rematch with Saunders brewing (which will be a big fight over here)....He's got good options. Winning the British title while they sort the whole Jacobs situation out is fine with me.

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    • soul_survivor
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      #42
      Originally posted by Box-Office
      http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...nick-blackwell




      I'm glad, the Hearns are ****ing up their own business, they've had continued trouble with Fury and were trying to mess up Eubank and Blackwell, how the hell does a big name like Hearn lose a purse bid to Hennessy? You don't try, that's how.

      I hope Eubank is back on channel 5 or ITV get back in the game, they used to have a terrific boxing structure for a decade.

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      • sicko
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        #43
        Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
        He doesn't want to fight Blackwell per se, he wants the British title before it's too late and he goes to world level. Blackwell just happens to have the belt.

        'I'm British through and through. I feel it's very important to win the British title.'

        He's already mandatory for Jacobs' world title, he's got a rematch with Saunders brewing (which will be a big fight over here)....He's got good options. Winning the British title while they sort the whole Jacobs situation out is fine with me.
        Oh Ok now it make sense!

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        • mrjoeblive
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          #44
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          because the 3rd fight of the contract is being fought on the show of a different promoter, so it would seem that at this moment Eubank and Hearn have no further business together.


          Why do people who dont understand things have to be such jackasses about it? Its not MY fault that you're ******
          So then if he fought under a different promoter how can it be the 3rd fight of his contract with hern?????? I never understood why ****** people when corrected double down on their moronic statement insted of correcting it. Then go on to show the world how big a dumbass they are by attacking the intelligent person that tried to help their ignorant azz.

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            #45
            Originally posted by mrjoeblive
            So then if he fought under a different promoter how can it be the 3rd fight of his contract with hern?????? I never understood why ****** people when corrected double down on their moronic statement insted of correcting it. Then go on to show the world how big a dumbass they are by attacking the intelligent person that tried to help their ignorant azz.
            sigh........ Im going to type this R-E-A-L S-L-O-W just for you........

            A contract has a certain length. Be it 3 years, or 3 fights. The actual "unit" in question doesnt matter. A 3-fight contract is over in 3 fights. It does not matter on whose shows those 3 fights take place.

            Now had they done the first 2 fights and Hearn offered an extra fight off contract on someone elses show that wasnt counting towards the 3, then thats a different matter. In THIS case it just happened to be a purse bid, which by virtue of Hearn losing the bid that allowed Eubank to still take the fight, and it just so happened to be the 3rd fight under the contract so the contract itself is over.

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              #46
              Originally posted by OnePunch
              sigh........ Im going to type this R-E-A-L S-L-O-W just for you........

              A contract has a certain length. Be it 3 years, or 3 fights. The actual "unit" in question doesnt matter. A 3-fight contract is over in 3 fights. It does not matter on whose shows those 3 fights take place.

              Now had they done the first 2 fights and Hearn offered an extra fight off contract on someone elses show that wasnt counting towards the 3, then thats a different matter. In THIS case it just happened to be a purse bid, which by virtue of Hearn losing the bid that allowed Eubank to still take the fight, and it just so happened to be the 3rd fight under the contract so the contract itself is over.
              I don't think it counts as "the third fight", my understanding is that since the contract has been voided they could fight on a Hennessy promotion without a single penny going to Matchroom.

              Also I think it says somewhere in this video (not digging it out) that Hearn was getting p*ssed off with the Eubanks because they wanted Eubank on a PPV, and also tried to go behind his back and sell it to sky themselves.

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              • OnePunch
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                #47
                Originally posted by CLUNG3-TANK
                I don't think it counts as "the third fight", my understanding is that since the contract has been voided they could fight on a Hennessy promotion without a single penny going to Matchroom.

                Also I think it says somewhere in this video (not digging it out) that Hearn was getting p*ssed off with the Eubanks because they wanted Eubank on a PPV, and also tried to go behind his back and sell it to sky themselves.

                all of those things are correct, but not mutually exclusive. Typically, a contract can call for 1 of 3 things in a purse bid. 1., if the promoter loses the bid, the fighter can elect to do the fight anyways with no money going to the promoter. 2., if the promoter loses the bid, the fighter may elect to do the fight, with a percentage of the purse (typically 20%) going to the promoter. Or 3., if the promoter loses the bid, he can prevent the fighter from accepting the fight.

                It seems as though Eubank / Hearn had a scenario like #1, where if the promoter loses the bid, the fighter is released for that particular fight to go fight on the other card. But there is no reason to think that the fight would not count, because Hearn even says in the video that if Eubank decides to pass on the Blackwell fight and wants to come back to Hearn for the 3rd fight, Hearn didnt know if he was legally obligated to do that or not.

                That right there tells me that its not the act of losing the bid that ended the contract, but its because it happened to occur on the final fight of the contract, it would have been the 3rd and final fight of the deal. If itr was black and white that the act itself of losing the bid was the end of the contract, then there would be nothing to consider or need a legal opinion about. It would be a done deal.

                But I havent seen the actual language, so im simply going off what would be the most probable scenario......
                Last edited by OnePunch; 12-22-2015, 04:03 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by OnePunch
                  sigh........ Im going to type this R-E-A-L S-L-O-W just for you........

                  A contract has a certain length. Be it 3 years, or 3 fights. The actual "unit" in question doesnt matter. A 3-fight contract is over in 3 fights. It does not matter on whose shows those 3 fights take place.

                  Now had they done the first 2 fights and Hearn offered an extra fight off contract on someone elses show that wasnt counting towards the 3, then thats a different matter. In THIS case it just happened to be a purse bid, which by virtue of Hearn losing the bid that allowed Eubank to still take the fight, and it just so happened to be the 3rd fight under the contract so the contract itself is over.
                  Im going to respond R E A L L Y S L O W just for you. A 3 fight CONTRACT is signed with a person or entity. The person or entity owns those 3 fights. If the contract is voided after 2 fights, the 3rd fight is voided. Herns will not receive compensation for the 3rd fight because his contract with chris is voided. Repetition for emphasis is, the THREE FIGHT CONTRACT WAS VOIDED! Thus there could be no 3rd fight.

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                  • OnePunch
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                    Im going to respond R E A L L Y S L O W just for you. A 3 fight CONTRACT is signed with a person or entity. The person or entity owns those 3 fights. If the contract is voided after 2 fights, the 3rd fight is voided. Herns will not receive compensation for the 3rd fight because his contract with chris is voided. Repetition for emphasis is, the THREE FIGHT CONTRACT WAS VOIDED! Thus there could be no 3rd fight.
                    sigh. Ok whatever. You win. Im over it......

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                    • mrjoeblive
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by OnePu nch
                      sigh. Ok whatever. You win. Im over it......
                      Ok but in truth I did enjoy reading your response to clung3.

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