Would beating GGG now be mayweather biggest victory and best work?

[hugh grant]

At 155 it would be his best win. There are weight classes for s reassn so if he beats GGG it would be his best win.

Floyd made his name off of fighters coming to the end their careers. It would be a chance for GGG to make his name offoffloyd. If Floyd refused to lose youd have to say its floyds best win by far.
His biggest challenge, biggest risk equals best win. You know it makes sense

[Lester Tutor]

At 155 it would be his best win. There are weight classes for s reassn so if he beats GGG it would be his best win.

Floyd made his name off of fighters coming to the end their careers. It would be a chance for GGG to make his name offoffloyd. If Floyd refused to lose youd have to say its floyds best win by far.
His biggest challenge, biggest risk equals best win. You know it makes sense

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[!! Shawn]

GGG passes the eye test but to some extent hes still relatively unproven

I dont know of many fighters that passed the eye test, had olympic medals and or world amateur championships, and didn't turn out to be the goods.

Holyfeild, Ali, Lewis, Andre Ward, Pernell Whitaker, SRL, Wlad, Rigondeaux, Gamboa, Mayweather, De La Hoya, RJJr, Cotto, Omar Narvaez, Brian Viloria, Lara, Haye, Kostya Tszyu... the list goes on and on and on.

Floyd would have a real nightmare of a time with GGG for one reason, range.

GGG is too good at controlling it, and Floyd doesn't have the reach to potshot from the outside. An obvious example vs an opponent not nearly as good as Mayweather is GGG vs Lemieux. He controlled distance all night with his jab.

That means Floyd would have to fight inside GGG's punching range, right at the end of his punches where they have the most power. Then you have to ask, will Floyd be able to dissuade GGG from countering with him? Ask Geale if GGG was willing to trade right hands with you. Maidana landed the same trade with Floyd.


What would have happened if it had been GGG landing it? Makes Floyds right hand look like a less viable weapon.

GGG's footwork is also superb, better than Canelos by a factor of 10.

And his style of using throw away punches to draw you into trading with him or giving him openings is very difficult to deal with.

Maybe a younger Floyd with better legs could have changed range to negate the disadvantages, but GGG is just a step too far in size vs a fighter who is technically the equal of the best fighters he has ever fought, and who can really really hurt you.

[Robbie Barrett]

I dont know of many fighters that passed the eye test, had olympic medals and or world amateur championships, and didn't turn out to be the goods.

Holyfeild, Ali, Lewis, Andre Ward, Pernell Whitaker, SRL, Wlad, Rigondeaux, Gamboa, Mayweather, De La Hoya, RJJr, Cotto, Omar Narvaez, Brian Viloria, Lara, Haye, Kostya Tszyu... the list goes on and on and on.

Floyd would have a real nightmare of a time with GGG for one reason, range.

GGG is too good at controlling it, and Floyd doesn't have the reach to potshot from the outside. An obvious example vs an opponent not nearly as good as Mayweather is GGG vs Lemieux. He controlled distance all night with his jab.

That means Floyd would have to fight inside GGG's punching range, right at the end of his punches where they have the most power. Then you have to ask, will Floyd be able to dissuade GGG from countering with him? Ask Geale if GGG was willing to trade right hands with you. Maidana landed the same trade with Floyd.


What would have happened if it had been GGG landing it? Makes Floyds right hand look like a less viable weapon.

GGG's footwork is also superb, better than Canelos by a factor of 10.

And his style of using throw away punches to draw you into trading with him or giving him openings is very difficult to deal with.

Maybe a younger Floyd with better legs could have changed range to negate the disadvantages, but GGG is just a step too far in size vs a fighter who is technically the equal of the best fighters he has ever fought, and who can really really hurt you.

Mayweather is a master of controlling range and has a greater reach than Golovkin. Mayweather getting caught like he did against Maidana and Mosley is so rare, news for you every fighter gets caught with punches Mayweather get's caught less than anyone else. As for comparing any opponent Little G has faced to Mayweather

[!! Shawn]

He'd be one of the most dangerous, in terms of size, height, power. I don't know about being the biggest, or top 5 best. Due to GGG's resume, when you start analyzing the hypothetical win, you start asking "Well...why is this win good again?" You start looking at GGG's resume for good names, and you'll have to really reach and start naming guys who 20 years from now will not be remembered. Geale, Lemiuex, Rubio, Stevens, Macklin, and so on...none of these guys are world beaters. So Floyd just hypothetically beat a dangerous guy who never showed his level of danger vs any elite fighter. That's how I see it.

Why is Pacquiao his best win? Well Pacquiao was a dangerous guy who showed his speed and power through 8 weight classes and took risks and was outweighed in most fights, won a bunch of awards like FOTD, titles in 8 weight classes, beat a bunch of top 10 P4P fighters in higher weight classes. And so on...yeah GGG doesn't even come close to Pacquiao. So Pacquiao would remain Floyd's best win. GGG comes nowhere in the top 5 for sure. De La Hoya, Cotto, Castillo, Corrales, Hatton, Canelo, Mosley all more accomplished fighters at the top level.

What would make it an accomplishment, is the same thing that made Pacquiao's fights with Cotto, Margarito, Oscar etc so impressive. He was moving up in weight fighting bigger guys who were with the exception of Oscar, at their best.

Floyd on the other hand fought the same guys, but after they were clearly past their best, and on terms that were heavily skewed in Floyds favor.

I think the only REAL in his prime gifted fighter he fought was Zab Judah, Canelo was a good fight too, but Canelo is a poor mans GGG, as things have panned out. At the time, it was a dangerous fight for Floyd and one of the few he gets real credit for taking a risk in. But like with most of the other wins against future HOF fighters he waited until Pacquiao was clearly diminished, had been demolished, and had not had a meaningful win in quite a while.

If Floyd fought Pacquiao when he was suppose too, he would have had his Leonard vs Duran 1 fight for his legacy. Instead we got Leonard vs Duran III. Does anyone even remember that fight? Most people forgot they even fought a 3rd time.

Him vs GGG would be his Leonard vs Hagler.

[NapalmKnuckles]

Short term, yes. Long term, no.

Going into the fight people will look at highlights of GGG destroying much bigger men than Floyd. They'll see the size difference in the stare downs, the media will constantly bring up the age factor and the odds would be in GGG's favor. I can even see Stephen A on First Take conceding that he's worried for Floyd and doesn't think he'll win because of the weight/age factor. It would be the first time Floyd goes in a fight as the underdog since Corrales. Final bell rings and Lennon Jr/Buffer announces Floyd wins by UD, no controversy, clear cut victory, 5 division world champion, 50-0. No doubt the hype immediately after the fight would be big, everyone would be claiming that GGG was his best opponent.
As time goes on though and the Macklins, Monroes and Murrays become more and more obscure and forgotten historically and with no real elite marquee names on GGG's resume people will just look at it as a more recent version of SRL vs Lalonde.

[The Viper]

An excellent post top to bottom. But I still think it would be a big win, given Floyd's age and shape by the time fight takes place.

That's my point.....he's way past prime.....to pull off this victory would be something else........

[!! Shawn]

Also to add to my post, if Golovkin who weighs 170lbs loses to Floyd who weighs 150lbs and has a big disadvantage in power also, and almost 4 inches in height, and is 40 years old...i'm not sure that would say much about how great Floyd is, I would instead see it as how terrrible a fighter Golovkin is. It would be pretty much be open season on GGG if he loses to Mayweather in this fantasy fight. You'd have guys like Ward, Lara, Froch, Dirrell, Andrade, the Charlo twins all coming out.

Nobody who legitimately wins a world amateur championship, and an olympic medal is a terrible fighter.

Some of them end up not being durable enough or having the power to cut it without headgear, but to accomplish that you have to be supremely skilled.

If Floyd beat GGG, it would be the best win of his career by a huge margin. I still don't understand how people **** on GGG when he cleaned out the division, emphatically, including both of the fighters that gave Sergio Martinez fits and did so while making it look easy. He already has the 2nd most Middleweight title defenses in the history of the sport against arguably better opponents than Hopkins faces for most of his middleweight reign.

So tell me, how would Floyd beating the consensus Middleweight Champion of the World, who has the 2nd highest number of title defenses in middleweight history, who also won both a world amateur championship, and a silver medal in the olympics, not say anything about how great Floyd is?

[!! Shawn]

Great post! this is what I've been saying all along. People would turn around and discredit GGG instead of give credit Floyd and they would have a decent argument. Golovkin hasn't faced anyone of note. Lemiuex is the best guy on his resue and like you said Lemiuex is no world beater. If GGG were to lose to Floyd it would be open season on him not just from other boxers but also the media and the critics.

Lemiuex isnt the best guy on his resume, Macklin, and Murray are probably the two best names.

[!! Shawn]

He can get no greater. He is 39 years old-his status can not be changed at this point, especially since its well past the retirement age of most pros. There is no next level.

He is a 1st ballot HOF'er, the best of his generation, one of the top fighters of the modern era. Just accept this and move on.

So Hopkins didn't enhance his legacy beating tarver, wright, pavlik, pascal, and going very close with Calzaghe all past 40?

You enhance your legacy by taking the fights you aren't suppose to take, and winning them.