Would beating GGG now be mayweather biggest victory and best work?

[Robbie Barrett]

So Hopkins didn't enhance his legacy beating tarver, wright, pavlik, pascal, and going very close with Calzaghe all past 40?

You enhance your legacy by taking the fights you aren't suppose to take, and winning them.

and how many of those kind of fights has Golovkin taken?

[meme_man]

What would make it an accomplishment, is the same thing that made Pacquiao's fights with Cotto, Margarito, Oscar etc so impressive. He was moving up in weight fighting bigger guys who were with the exception of Oscar, at their best.

Floyd on the other hand fought the same guys, but after they were clearly past their best, and on terms that were heavily skewed in Floyds favor.

I think the only REAL in his prime gifted fighter he fought was Zab Judah, Canelo was a good fight too, but Canelo is a poor mans GGG, as things have panned out. At the time, it was a dangerous fight for Floyd and one of the few he gets real credit for taking a risk in. But like with most of the other wins against future HOF fighters he waited until Pacquiao was clearly diminished, had been demolished, and had not had a meaningful win in quite a while.

If Floyd fought Pacquiao when he was suppose too, he would have had his Leonard vs Duran 1 fight for his legacy. Instead we got Leonard vs Duran III. Does anyone even remember that fight? Most people forgot they even fought a 3rd time.

Him vs GGG would be his Leonard vs Hagler.

Is this real life?? He said the odds were in Floyd favor really so the cotton fight and de LA Hoya fights at 154??

[fanofslug]

Not in the slightest. Sorry, but GGG isn't proven and there's doubts he could beat Canelo let alone Mayweather.

[!! Shawn]

and how many of those kind of fights has Golovkin taken?

Compare where GGG is now to where hopkins was with the same number of defenses.

[BoxingIsGreat]

At 160 it would be Floyds best win and would be comparable to some of the greats wins, Floyd so wants to emulate.

Floyd has never beat a middleweight and GGG beats middleweights for fun. Only people who dont think Floyd will gain much are people who dont want Floyd to be great.

I love to see the fight at the full limit, 160, as I said many times. It's not a prerequisite for Floyd to fight a middleweight. He's a welterweight.

I'm a hardcore Floyd fan, but he's not a middleweight. Used to be Canelo fan, but **** him. I wanna see these fights.

But I'm not sure the middleweight boogeyman will fight Floyd at '54.

[!! Shawn]

Is this real life?? He said the odds were in Floyd favor really so the cotton fight and de LA Hoya fights at 154??

Obviously Oscar got it his way when they fought.

Floyd got things his way when he fought Cotto, and despite Cotto's brief comeback manufactured through excellent matchmaking. Cotto was faded when Floyd fought him. He was not the same fighter that Pacquiao faced.

The public was clamoring for Floyd vs Cotto after Cotto beat Judah, what did we get? Floyd fought Ricky Hatton, who looked ooooooh so great vs Luis Collazo at his only attempt at 147 that he moved back down to 140, until Floyd dragged him up to 147 for a "super fight".

Oh... he then decided to "retire" after Cotto beat Mosley a month later and the public were demanding a fight with Cotto...

After Cotto was beaten by Antonio Plasterito.

Mayweather then waits for negotiations between Cotto and Pacquiao to start before retiring to bring Marquez up from 135.

Once against Mayweather fights Marquez within months of Pacquiao vs Cotto, this time Cotto getting a severe beating from Pacquiao effectively ending his prime.

This was of course when Manny Pacquiao was now at his absolute best. The whole world wanted Pacquiao vs Mayweather. Instead... we get Mosley a year and a half off his upset win over Margarito, and 3 years from from his last meaningful fight against a skilled opponent which was 2007 Cotto. Then we get the joke that was Victor Ortiz... then 3 years after his peak ended, and 5 years after the public wanted it, we finally got Miguel Cotto, the same year Pacquiao lost to Bradley and Marquez back to back.

Credit to Floyd though, after going through another soft touch in a 135lber he moved up to 147 in Robert Guerrero, he took a risk with Canelo.

After that, he went right back to the Maidana's of the world, and after two much more difficult than they should have been fights, he finally realized that he better cash out his Pacquiao chip before he is the one slipping.

a full 6 years after Pacquiao was at his best, and once again3 years after he had obviously faded from his former glory, Floyd finally fights Pacquiao.

Brilliantly managed career path Haymon laid out for him. But its very very clear just looking at the timing and dates of fights and announcements that they were all scheduled soft touches to be in conflict with the possibility of fighting someone in their prime, planned retirements, and careful avoidance of risky fighters at their best.

[The Viper]

Obviously Oscar got it his way when they fought.

Floyd got things his way when he fought Cotto, and despite Cotto's brief comeback manufactured through excellent matchmaking. Cotto was faded when Floyd fought him. He was not the same fighter that Pacquiao faced.

The public was clamoring for Floyd vs Cotto after Cotto beat Judah, what did we get? Floyd fought Ricky Hatton, who looked ooooooh so great vs Luis Collazo at his only attempt at 147 that he moved back down to 140, until Floyd dragged him up to 147 for a "super fight".

Oh... he then decided to "retire" after Cotto beat Mosley a month later and the public were demanding a fight with Cotto...

After Cotto was beaten by Antonio Plasterito.

Mayweather then waits for negotiations between Cotto and Pacquiao to start before retiring to bring Marquez up from 135.

Once against Mayweather fights Marquez within months of Pacquiao vs Cotto, this time Cotto getting a severe beating from Pacquiao effectively ending his prime.

This was of course when Manny Pacquiao was now at his absolute best. The whole world wanted Pacquiao vs Mayweather. Instead... we get Mosley a year and a half off his upset win over Margarito, and 3 years from from his last meaningful fight against a skilled opponent which was 2007 Cotto. Then we get the joke that was Victor Ortiz... then 3 years after his peak ended, and 5 years after the public wanted it, we finally got Miguel Cotto, the same year Pacquiao lost to Bradley and Marquez back to back.

Credit to Floyd though, after going through another soft touch in a 135lber he moved up to 147 in Robert Guerrero, he took a risk with Canelo.

After that, he went right back to the Maidana's of the world, and after two much more difficult than they should have been fights, he finally realized that he better cash out his Pacquiao chip before he is the one slipping.

a full 6 years after Pacquiao was at his best, and once again3 years after he had obviously faded from his former glory, Floyd finally fights Pacquiao.

Brilliantly managed career path Haymon laid out for him. But its very very clear just looking at the timing and dates of fights and announcements that they were all scheduled soft touches to be in conflict with the possibility of fighting someone in their prime, planned retirements, and careful avoidance of risky fighters at their best.

It's hard to argue that guys......

[The Viper]

Nobody who legitimately wins a world amateur championship, and an olympic medal is a terrible fighter.

Some of them end up not being durable enough or having the power to cut it without headgear, but to accomplish that you have to be supremely skilled.

If Floyd beat GGG, it would be the best win of his career by a huge margin. I still don't understand how people **** on GGG when he cleaned out the division, emphatically, including both of the fighters that gave Sergio Martinez fits and did so while making it look easy. He already has the 2nd most Middleweight title defenses in the history of the sport against arguably better opponents than Hopkins faces for most of his middleweight reign.

So tell me, how would Floyd beating the consensus Middleweight Champion of the World, who has the 2nd highest number of title defenses in middleweight history, who also won both a world amateur championship, and a silver medal in the olympics, not say anything about how great Floyd is?

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[Nubia]

They should just start issuing out bans for people who make Mayweather vs GGG threads. He's not coming back simpletons. He's retired.

[KLockard23]

They should just start issuing out bans for people who make Mayweather vs GGG threads. He's not coming back simpletons. He's retired.

The only simpletons are the ones who actually think he's 100% retired, like your big, dumb-ass.