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  • OnePunch
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    #41
    Originally posted by tiliheels
    it is more to it i almost sympathize with these guys..if they lose 1 fight they get called bums and ppl never want to see them again.. this isnt a lebron nba type game where u can lose the finals 4 times and still get a lifetime nike deal..see how it really isnt fair for them
    nonsense. With 6 or 7 losses Gatti could still sell out Boardwalk Hall and get on HBO. Jones, Hopkins, Pac, Tyson, Evander, Tito, Mosley, Oscar, Lennox, Klitschko (both), etc etc etc all made MILLIONS after having multiple losses.........

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      #42
      Originally posted by tiliheels
      fans who make losing too big of a deal made his kind of talk popular imo

      if u lose once no one will buy you as a ppv opponent or headliner..everyone calls u a bum...even after u win another big fight they go back and talk about your loss even if u improve..

      almost cant blame the fighter for not want to take test when the can make millions fightin almost guaranteed wins
      STOP BEING SO CASUAL AS A FAN AND THIS MIGHT STOP..
      hell if u have one bad day at work your checks dont change so who are you to judge..

      on the ohter hand fighters like thruman porter garcia spence brook khan..they could all fight each other 2 times this year and it wouldnt make boxing more popular...so its a sad time to be in the sport of boxing it seems ..only the hardcore and same casuals would catch it...arent enough of us to make a demand
      haymon tried but i dont pbc going far even if they make the best matchups..
      I agree, its become a fine line. Floyd had something to do with that as well. So afraid to lose and protecting that 0. The Durans and Hearns of yesterday sure are missed today.

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      • Strive 4 Truth
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        #43
        Originally posted by OnePunch
        nonsense. With 6 or 7 losses Gatti could still sell out Boardwalk Hall and get on HBO. Jones, Hopkins, Pac, Tyson, Evander, Tito, Mosley, Oscar, Lennox, Klitschko (both), etc etc etc all made MILLIONS after having multiple losses.........
        Thats true also but all but that was a different time. With Floyd protecting his 0 and labeling someone as a who after they lose, put that same concept into peoples minds.

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          #44
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          That's pure BS. MULTIPLE haymon fighters have said these same comments that haymon picks their fights Not them. Thurman said I usually get passed a list of 3 names and I have to pick one but for my last fight I got only one name on the list collazo so I had to fight him. Thats what he said to defend himself against the media who killed him for that mismatch fight. You really think Thurman wants to fight guys like that? You think Danny is picking guys like gurrero? Even when the fighters themselves tell you they aren't you still try to take the blame off haymon? How much more can these fighters spell it out before people like you open their eyes. SMH.
          Because Porter, Broner, Garcia, Khan, had a fight lined up or had just fought.

          Thurman doesn't seem to want to fight Porter either.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth
            I agree, its become a fine line. Floyd had something to do with that as well. So afraid to lose and protecting that 0. The Durans and Hearns of yesterday sure are missed today.
            BRO IM SORRY BUT FLOYD FOUGHT AN ENTIRE ERA..PPL ATH CALLED HIM A DUCKER DD HIM NOTHING BUT A FAVOR MKING HIM HSO POPULAR LOL...duran and them got paid well to fight..danny and porter would split 1.5...that is unfair a bit..they have to market themselves better tho

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            • nivek535
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              #46
              business WILL lose you fans

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              • tiliheels
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                #47
                Originally posted by OnePunch
                nonsense. With 6 or 7 losses Gatti could still sell out Boardwalk Hall and get on HBO. Jones, Hopkins, Pac, Tyson, Evander, Tito, Mosley, Oscar, Lennox, Klitschko (both), etc etc etc all made MILLIONS after having multiple losses.........
                i think u missed my earlier post...i said today a loss is a career ender....but i do agree with your post i like the gatti era better btw but even boardwalk hall is a deadsite now..boxing has just changed

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                • tiliheels
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce
                  The only fans who made losing a big deal, are floyd fans.
                  im a floyd fan and i still would have been if he lost..but i disagree with your statement even beyond that..it was the haters that said "if he loses he will be exposed..pca will expose him, his 0 has to go, um um um...let me think im sure i have more...um...he cant be tbe if he loses, um..all kinda bs like that"

                  floyd fought and era can u with a straight face sitter here and say his 0 has never been tested when u see the bright prospects like amir imam lose to a bumn? when u see donaire almost get stopped in a gimme fight? dude moved up 5 weight classes...i dont know a boxer in history that moved up 3 an wasnt tested...i will argue anyone who blames him and say they are full of ****

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SteveM
                    Yeah but this is true of all sports. Boxing, at the top end where Garcia is comfortably sat is well compensated these days if you look at the money side of things alone. Even if you factor in risk it is. Which is more risky boxing or being a jet pilot or a grunt?

                    The trouble is most of these guys act like $5 million is nothing. If you or me or virtually every other NSB poster had $5 million in the bank by the time we are mid thirties then we'd be set up for life. Shit - $500,000 would do it for me. But nooooh - these greedy gits need $25-30 million in the bank.
                    LOL I don't disagree with much of what you are saying here & I've openly praised Maidana, first for taking time off to enjoy life after having made so much money in about a 12 month period & now for seemingly calling it a career after having been set up for life with those paydays.

                    I'm often shocked guys like Klitschko, Mayweather & Pacquiao don't retire sooner with all those $15M+ paydays they had (well before the crazy 9 digit payday Floyd & Manny had in May). Even with state & federal taxes, manager & trainers cuts & anything unforeseen that needs to come out before that money enters their bank account you would think they would have enough for most guys to retire sooner & quit boxing. I'd assume they have a whole lot more going on their head (competitive/legacy stuff, keeping up with all your rich friends stuff, being worried that you can't go back as easy once you are outta the game, etc & so on) at that point than your or mine or Maidana's outlook that this $5M+ is enough to do us good.
                    Last edited by Eff Pandas; 12-14-2015, 10:55 AM.

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                    • Fetta
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by tiliheels
                      .if they lose 1 fight they get called bums and ppl never want to see them again
                      Nothing but the truth!!!
                      Been saying the same thing. Especially on NSB!!

                      A fighter loses once and they are hype, bum, never that good, and the "hardcore fans" are done with them.

                      Watched UFC over weekend and the fight party was happening!! And some of those guys have 8 loses but still got love. No way will boxing fans ever accept that.

                      Sadly Garcia speaks the truth and some will blame PBC/Haymon/Mayweather but its the fans

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