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  • #61
    Originally posted by Fetta View Post
    Yeah so that the undefeated Garcia loses and he will be all "hype" and a "bum" cause he was defeated by a fighter with only 3 losses but oh hes a bum too. So we will get 2 bums.

    Boxing fan mentality.
    I already think he is a bum, he doesn't need a loss for that. Losing doesn't make someone a bum, running from challenges in a sport because you want to take on easy bouts yet still get paid the money that should come with the hard challenges makes you a bum.

    He can spin it anyway he wants to but in the end, if you don't have fans...... you don't have a sport. The fans desire certain matches whether that fits into Danny Boy's gift basket not.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by mathed View Post
      Forget Garcia, this dude is the epitome of what's wrong with boxing.

      He is fighting Ghost because he appears to be past it and they hope they can get an easy victory over a known name..... Same as his fights with Morales and Judah. I hope the Ghost had one more win left in him and that he shuts this fool down. "Gift" Garcia has picked a cherry that wasn't ripe for the picking this time!!!
      What about khan and Matthysse? He was big underdogs against both and beat them.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by mathed View Post
        I already think he is a bum, he doesn't need a loss for that. Losing doesn't make someone a bum, running from challenges in a sport because you want to take on easy bouts yet still get paid the money that should come with the hard challenges makes you a bum.

        He can spin it anyway he wants to but in the end, if you don't have fans...... you don't have a sport. The fans desire certain matches whether that fits into Danny Boy's gift basket not.
        If you dont have fighters you cant have a sport and so far i think there are maybe 4/5 fighters that arent bums in NSB eyes and even then thats stretching it. Garcia is a top notch undefeated fighter but he is a bum. Ghost has 3 loses but he is a bum. Fighting each other but the fight is called a cherry pick or 2 bums fighting. But they running from challenges.

        Mares didnt run from anyone but he is a bum on NSB cause he has 2 loses. Lara either but he is all hype.

        Say and think what you want but this is the truth.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by tredh View Post
          Yes I do. Beside talking loud about a fight with Floyd. Thurman hasn't shown he would like to fight anybody that could possibly mess up his shot a big money fight. Thurman is ducking Shawn Porter right now. Why?

          Also remember I said look at the whole picture. If Thurman himself or his team already let Haymon know its certain fighters they not willing to face why put certain names on the list? Think past go!

          You choosing to believe 100% in what these fighters are "saying" when their "actions" completely tell a different story. Personally I believe neither 100% but I know actions speak louder than words.

          If Danny Garcia is willing to fight Salka why wouldn't I think he would Guerrero. Which actually isn't that bad of a fight considering its 2nd fight at 147.

          Start @ 2:30. I'll believe that over a certain fighters because its quite obvious many will say certain things just to save face.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCbPWvTSOTQ
          Is thurman the only Haymon fighter that has been feasting on Mismatches? Nope so it's not a thurman thing it's a haymon thing. Thurman says I don't pick the fighters or the list to choose from. I only used Thurman as an example because he flat out said I can't control the names on the list that haymon gives me and his last fight that he got KILLED for taking he said there was only 1 name on the list it was Collazo so that's why I'm fighting him. What makes you think any of these fighters have a choice in the opponents when all say they are fighting the guys Haymon tells them to. At best they get a list of a few names but if no one on that list is top guys that the fans want to see who do we blame? The man making the list! Which is Haymon. Khan and Stevenson have both fought what 4-5 straight mismatches. Who the hell is Wilder fighting? None are top guys or guys fans want to see. The list of Haymon fighters that are not fighting top guys is too long for anyone to think this is because of the fighters.

          And don't give me this crap that it's because of the fans or the sport as a whole. Because Canelo fighting top fighters. Golden Boy is putting their top guys in big fights the fans want. Matthysee just fought Ruslan and Potel, Canelo stays fighting top guys, Lemiuex just fought GGG, Linares just fought Kevin Mitchell, Ortiz is fighting Jennings, ect. Haymon has MORE fighters then Golden Boy multiple fighters in the same stable yet those top guys are not fighting each other let alone fighting top guys from other promoters. Canelo lost a fight and is still the biggest star in the game right now so don't give me crap about if a fighter loses his career is over. The excuses you guys are making for Haymon are disgusting. If Haymon wanted Garcia to fight ANY of the top guys at 147 we would have already seen that fight. He is supposedly the most powerful man in sports and all his fighters say he picks the fights but when the fights don't happen it's not his fault? When it's a pattern world wide through his entire stable? Get your head out of the sand people.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
            Is thurman the only Haymon fighter that has been feasting on Mismatches? Nope so it's not a thurman thing it's a haymon thing. Thurman says I don't pick the fighters or the list to choose from. I only used Thurman as an example because he flat out said I can't control the names on the list that haymon gives me and his last fight that he got KILLED for taking he said there was only 1 name on the list it was Collazo so that's why I'm fighting him. What makes you think any of these fighters have a choice in the opponents when all say they are fighting the guys Haymon tells them to. At best they get a list of a few names but if no one on that list is top guys that the fans want to see who do we blame? The man making the list! Which is Haymon. Khan and Stevenson have both fought what 4-5 straight mismatches. Who the hell is Wilder fighting? None are top guys or guys fans want to see. The list of Haymon fighters that are not fighting top guys is too long for anyone to think this is because of the fighters.

            And don't give me this crap that it's because of the fans or the sport as a whole. Because Canelo fighting top fighters. Golden Boy is putting their top guys in big fights the fans want. Matthysee just fought Ruslan and Potel, Canelo stays fighting top guys, Lemiuex just fought GGG, Linares just fought Kevin Mitchell, Ortiz is fighting Jennings, ect. Haymon has MORE fighters then Golden Boy multiple fighters in the same stable yet those top guys are not fighting each other let alone fighting top guys from other promoters. Canelo lost a fight and is still the biggest star in the game right now so don't give me crap about if a fighter loses his career is over. The excuses you guys are making for Haymon are disgusting. If Haymon wanted Garcia to fight ANY of the top guys at 147 we would have already seen that fight. He is supposedly the most powerful man in sports and all his fighters say he picks the fights but when the fights don't happen it's not his fault? When it's a pattern world wide through his entire stable? Get your head out of the sand people.
            Did you watch the video?

            I'm not absolving Haymon of his part in it. I just don't believe Haymon should get 100% of the blame.

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            • #66
              If that's the case, then why isn't he fighting the likes of a Keith Thurman or Shawn Porter or rematch with Khan? Surely those fights are bigger money fights than Guerrero!

              I gotta say, Haymon is doing a pretty shiet job building stars.

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              • #67
                what an idiot...fans are the consumers and consumers demands is what drives the business.

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                • #68
                  ****** but after all my years of college i did learn you cannot have a business without clients (public)

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
                    in 20 years most of these clowns will still be talking about how many Bugattis Floyd had.

                    Getting some kind of self-validation by counting another mans money just doesnt make any sense to me.....
                    Well said brother. I mean we don't even talk about Floyd vs Canelo. We don't talk about Garcia vs Khan, or Garcia vs Maidana. That's the difference between today's "best" fighters, and the Legends before them; a big gap. It's all about acting gangster today with your "things".

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                      If you dont have fighters you cant have a sport and so far i think there are maybe 4/5 fighters that arent bums in NSB eyes and even then thats stretching it. Garcia is a top notch undefeated fighter but he is a bum. Ghost has 3 loses but he is a bum. Fighting each other but the fight is called a cherry pick or 2 bums fighting. But they running from challenges.

                      Mares didnt run from anyone but he is a bum on NSB cause he has 2 loses. Lara either but he is all hype.

                      Say and think what you want but this is the truth.
                      This is funny. The same asshat who claims EVERY top 10 middleweight that GGG has beaten is a BUM, or a NOBODY, now all of a sudden has nominated himself "Defender of the Thrice Beaten".

                      lol

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