How can PBC become self-sufficient?

[boxinghead530]

If I'm being serious, I would've liked to see Haymon pay guys a lot less for easy fights, keep them active and then pay them more for big fights. Right now he's just paying them big for everything. It's why we have deals where nobody is willing to fight J-Rock, Thurman is dragging his feet to fight Porter, and Danny Garcia's career has stalled after getting big.

The great fighters of past generations never would've developed if they received title fight money doing their tune-ups. They pushed themselves to be great and dreamed of taking chances to prove themselves to earn a great reward.

You are right on the money with this post.

[Scipio2009]

What do we see now?
1. Most of the PBC fighters don't try to jump on the wave of popularity after successfull and action-packed fight. Like, Gary Russel Jr. for example had a noticeble knockout win over Gonzales. And whom did he fight next? The same TBAs! And this is the case for the most Haymon boxers.
2. Most boxers fight too seldom - 2 times a year. I can understand if such stars as Manny Pacquiao or Miguel Cotto fight 2 times a year, but even Danny Garcia isn't that popular to fight so seldom.
3. Many fighters are overpayed. How can undercard fighter Peter Quillin receive 1.5 million dollars? It's ridicuilos!

On the one hand Haymon doesn't try to increase a popularity of his fighters, on the ther hand he is constantly overpaying them. And most fights are broadcasted by free TV. I can't see PBC becoming as popular, as UFC, and UFC consumes roughly 10 times less money.
So, the question is, how can PBC become self-sufficient? What do you think?

The simple answer is continue to sell the ad spots during the broadcasts (Corona being the title sponsor for PBC likely skews the ad numbers a bit).

Since that initial ~2 month stretch (where every PBC broadcast was filled largely with fighter profiles and PBC commercials), PBC has actually done a pretty **** up job at pushing product.

As long as the audience continues to grow, PBC will be able to sell their ad spots at higher rates (PBC ad revenue ceiling, as far as I can tell, is generally the $300k per 30-second spot that NCAAF gets for primetime football).

60 30-second spots per show, $100k per spot, and you're looking at $6m in ad revenue to work around for a show.

Note: the activity question fluctuates fighter to fighter, regardless of how you seem to feel about fighters like Danny Garcia (140 kingpin, budding NY/Puerto Rican star, etc). There have been plenty of PBC fighters who have been put in 4-7 fights this year.

[ea22]

The simple answer is continue to sell the ad spots during the broadcasts (Corona being the title sponsor for PBC likely skews the ad numbers a bit).

Since that initial ~2 month stretch (where every PBC broadcast was filled largely with fighter profiles and PBC commercials), PBC has actually done a pretty **** up job at pushing product.

As long as the audience continues to grow, PBC will be able to sell their ad spots at higher rates (PBC ad revenue ceiling, as far as I can tell, is generally the $300k per 30-second spot that NCAAF gets for primetime football).

60 30-second spots per show, $100k per spot, and you're looking at $6m in ad revenue to work around for a show.

Note: the activity question fluctuates fighter to fighter, regardless of how you seem to feel about fighters like Danny Garcia (140 kingpin, budding NY/Puerto Rican star, etc). There have been plenty of PBC fighters who have been put in 4-7 fights this year.

The audience is not growing though, ratings are declining. The Guerrero vs Garcia card is going to be important, but they need to be consistent.

[Scipio2009]

The audience is not growing though, ratings are declining. The Guerrero vs Garcia card is going to be important, but they need to be consistent.

PBC was competing against the football seasons (NFL/NCAAF), which sops up the sports audience from everyone. Both sports basically wrap things up by the end of January, leaving the general sports calendar free from then into August.

Garcia-Guerrero in January, Thurman-Porter in February, Jack-Chavez Jr in March, Wilder-Povetkin in April, Brook-Khan in May/June, and so on (filled in with a ton of other fight cards).

January-August will likely be PBC season going forward.

[AddiX]

The plan for PBC is such a joke, the company doesn't even have a face to go with it.

All that money and you Have no stars, no Dana White, nothing and no one to sell it to the masses.

The only thing I associate PBC with, is overpaid black fighters who deliver crappy ratings.

I can't for the life of me figure out how Haymon fooled these investors to give him the $, but IMO the guy who worked for the hedge fund and now works for PBC probably has a lot to do it.

PBC was a scam from the beginning.

[JJRod]

Somebody already said it. The key is consistency.
One channel, one time slot every week or bi weekly.

That allows the casual fans to tune into a channel weekly watch a fight but get to know he other fighters as they're promoted. Also keep your guys active. Danny Garcia doesn't have to fight big competition every time but he can stay active in between fights. Two big fights a year and 2 stay busy fights in between.

[ea22]

PBC was competing against the football seasons (NFL/NCAAF), which sops up the sports audience from everyone. Both sports basically wrap things up by the end of January, leaving the general sports calendar free from then into August.

Garcia-Guerrero in January, Thurman-Porter in February, Jack-Chavez Jr in March, Wilder-Povetkin in April, Brook-Khan in May/June, and so on (filled in with a ton of other fight cards).

January-August will likely be PBC season going forward.

There is always an excuse with you guys, always, at some point you just have to look at the falling ratings and be real.

The first fight you mentioned is confirmed, every other one while great matchups are not confirmed. And if those fights were to be made it would be a great comeback for PBC, but knowing their matchmaking they probably won't.

[Scipio2009]

There is always an excuse with you guys, always, at some point you just have to look at the falling ratings and be real.

The first fight you mentioned is confirmed, every other one while great matchups are not confirmed. And if those fights were to be made it would be a great comeback for PBC, but knowing their matchmaking they probably won't.

when the numbers play out the way that most logical folks expect, I'd hope you'd have the confidence to still stand by your words here.

[OnePunch]

There is always an excuse with you guys, always, at some point you just have to look at the falling ratings and be real.

The first fight you mentioned is confirmed, every other one while great matchups are not confirmed. And if those fights were to be made it would be a great comeback for PBC, but knowing their matchmaking they probably won't.

exactly. PBC debuted in March. Im not sure what football games they were competing against in April, May, June, July, and August lol

[megas30]

An increase interest in boxing from the general public or drown out the competition with better quality fights. Right now boxing is really a niche market, so it's either total dominance, or an increase in the market size.