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  • Shpacman
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    #21
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    PBC needs a propaganda machine like these other groups seem to have. Now idk all the legalities with how Haymon works how complicated that could or couldn't end up being, but they need a internet show/podcast or something on TV at least covering "this week in PBC action" or something to bring things together a lil better.
    No. PBC needs a proper building of fighters popularity, just like Top Rank and HBO do. Remember, how Mikey Garcia, Golovkin, Kovalev, Crawford were promoted. They all fought at least 3 times a year, and some of these fights were action-packed and meaningful. This is the way to build the popularity of the fighter, no way you can make a fighter when he is fighting two times a year.

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    • STAX ON DECK
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      #22
      Originally posted by AddiX
      PBC is destined to die.

      They have burned 200 million and have accomplished nothing. It's actually getting worse as time goes by for them.

      Haymon doesn't care, if PBC dies, the fighters are still signed to him, he loses nothing, and he's basically paying himself with his investors $. The man is nothing but a thief, except he does it while telling you, it's for your own good.
      negative,its acutally destined to shine,not now but in the future

      once PBC/haymon have cornered the boxing market,they will probably do some type of monthy pay subscription based channel for PBC fights and all boxing content

      $15/mo is not a bad idea,i would buy it

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      • Shpacman
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        #23
        Originally posted by about.thousands
        Roc Nations was going to pay Quillin $1.4 mil to fight Korobov for the same title a year ago. The market determined Quillin was worth that much for a WBO title fight.
        This would have been the first Roc Nation show, so you can't compare it with a regular fight.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Shpacman
          This would have been the first Roc Nation show, so you can't compare it with a regular fight.
          A purse bid is the ultimate way to determine market value.

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          • Eff Pandas
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            #25
            Originally posted by Shpacman
            No. PBC needs a proper building of fighters popularity, just like Top Rank and HBO do. Remember, how Mikey Garcia, Golovkin, Kovalev, Crawford were promoted. They all fought at least 3 times a year, and some of these fights were action-packed and meaningful. This is the way to build the popularity of the fighter, no way you can make a fighter when he is fighting two times a year.
            Thats silly. Fight 3 times a year & you're a star, 2 times a year & you're not. lol. Its a lil more complicated than that.

            What all those guys have or had in the case of Garcia is the HBO propaganda machine behind it. HBO hypes HBO fighters better than anyone in the business regardless if they fight once, twice or three times a year.

            PBC has nothing hyping their fighters cuz everyone involved with PBC has too small a piece of the pie (the promoters seem to underpromote fights since they have flat fee agreements) & the guy running things doesn't f#cking talk to anyone he doesn't have a contract with it seems & he doesn't even talk to all of those guys it seems like. At least they need a f#cking youtube show, podcast or some TV show where they can openly discuss PBC fights & the PBC schedule to get more people knowing where to go to watch those fights or they need someone who's able to be a voice of PBC & all the things going on right now.

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              #26
              Did Scheafer die? PBC could perhaps use him.

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                #27
                Originally posted by STAX ON DECK
                negative,its acutally destined to shine,not now but in the future

                once PBC/haymon have cornered the boxing market,they will probably do some type of monthy pay subscription based channel for PBC fights and all boxing content

                $15/mo is not a bad idea,i would buy it
                I was thinking this could be something Haymon does early on myself, but I think Haymon's belief is that PPV, a subscription channel & even to some degree cable channels with smaller audiences hurt the growth of boxing. I think a lot of Haymon's goal right now is just to get boxing to people who haven't watched boxing in forever. The way HBO has won boxing over the years is by creating a niche audience that isn't opposed to even paying for the biggest fights. There is an argument that PBC is trying to create the anti-HBO in regards to how it shows boxing. HBO is trying to capture this niche boxing audience of hardcord fans & PBC ideally is trying to capture a new audience of boxing fans that & hoping the hardcore fans will just watch boxing on TV regardless of the channel its on.

                There is a legit question to be asked is does boxing even fit on "regular" tv with how the sport is setup that is unique & a unique problem compared to other sports when trying to get money that is also being asked right now that PBC will find out the answer to eventually.
                Last edited by Eff Pandas; 12-11-2015, 05:52 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by about.thousands
                  A purse bid is the ultimate way to determine market value.
                  however when one entity (roc) was bidding not because of that particular fight, but because they had another purpose (credibility, publicity), then its is NOT representative of the market.

                  How many bids has Roc won since?

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                  • mathed
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by joseph5620
                    He is a manager.
                    Actually, he is an "advisor".

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      Weekly show on the same channel, same time every week.. That's how you build an audience.. Not random channels, days, times..
                      Bingo..

                      There's a reason people knew what Friday night Fights was...as bad as that may have been you knew when and where to find it...

                      The PBC schedule is just all over the place and the matchmaking blows....

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