How can PBC become self-sufficient?

[OnePunch]

If I'm being serious, I would've liked to see Haymon pay guys a lot less for easy fights, keep them active and then pay them more for big fights. Right now he's just paying them big for everything. It's why we have deals where nobody is willing to fight J-Rock, Thurman is dragging his feet to fight Porter, and Danny Garcia's career has stalled after getting big.

The great fighters of past generations never would've developed if they received title fight money doing their tune-ups. They pushed themselves to be great and dreamed of taking chances to prove themselves to earn a great reward.

preach it........

[nivek535]

how have they accomplished nothing?? its been getting better and better (at least from an audience's point of view..)
i watched their debut show and thought it was utter ****..
recently noticed the less-famed fighters put up great shows lol.

and why do some people talk like they are happy to see PBC not-do-well?? are u even a fan of boxing? wtf

[Shpacman]

and why do some people talk like they are happy to see PBC not-do-well?? are u even a fan of boxing? wtf

No. Everyone will be happy if all fighters fight under the same promoter, if there is one belt in each weight class. But it's a puzzle for me how can this happen in PBC model of bussiness.

[Luilun]

What do we see now?
1. Most of the PBC fighters don't try to jump on the wave of popularity after successfull and action-packed fight. Like, Gary Russel Jr. for example had a noticeble knockout win over Gonzales. And whom did he fight next? The same TBAs! And this is the case for the most Haymon boxers.
2. Most boxers fight too seldom - 2 times a year. I can understand if such stars as Manny Pacquiao or Miguel Cotto fight 2 times a year, but even Danny Garcia isn't that popular to fight so seldom.
3. Many fighters are overpayed. How can undercard fighter Peter Quillin receive 1.5 million dollars? It's ridicuilos!

On the one hand Haymon doesn't try to increase a popularity of his fighters, on the ther hand he is constantly overpaying them. And most fights are broadcasted by free TV. I can't see PBC becoming as popular, as UFC, and UFC consumes roughly 10 times less money.
So, the question is, how can PBC become self-sufficient? What do you think?

If he paid them it would be less he uses investors money to pay them

[Luilun]

Weekly show on the same channel, same time every week.. That's how you build an audience.. Not random channels, days, times..

True cause I have no clue when a show is. Back in the day I looked forward to Tuesday night fights with Sean Ogrady or Friday Night Fights on Prime Ticket from the Los Angeles Forum

[Eff Pandas]

Weekly show on the same channel, same time every week.. That's how you build an audience.. Not random channels, days, times..

I think the ultimate goal is this or a few channels anyway. I think we are in throw spaghetti on the wall & see what sticks mode still. I just think PBC needs some f#cking focus & someone in the public eye who can vocalize things better.

Arum talks TR ****. Oscar talks GBP ****. And those two & others talk HBO **** cuz thats where they fight. Plus HBO gots a one stop place to view HBO boxing unlike PBC & HBO is universially considered the gold standard in the sport so they don't really gotta alert anyone to whats going on. Who's talking PBC **** among its 8 or w/e different channels? Who's hyping PBC as a silver standard to HBO's gold standard in boxing? No one really. I complain about too many chiefs & not enough indians with the current boxing landscape, but PBC's issue might be a dozen tribes of indians & only one chief that barely leaves his f#cking teepee.

PBC needs a propaganda machine like these other groups seem to have. Now idk all the legalities with how Haymon works how complicated that could or couldn't end up being, but they need a internet show/podcast or something on TV at least covering "this week in PBC action" or something to bring things together a lil better.

[about.thousands]

3. Many fighters are overpayed. How can undercard fighter Peter Quillin receive 1.5 million dollars? It's ridicuilos!

Roc Nations was going to pay Quillin $1.4 mil to fight Korobov for the same title a year ago. The market determined Quillin was worth that much for a WBO title fight.

[nivek535]

No. Everyone will be happy if all fighters fight under the same promoter, if there is one belt in each weight class. But it's a puzzle for me how can this happen in PBC model of bussiness.

i guess al knows what hes doing..
im sure he knows better than what 99% of the online posters know :P.

besides, arent gbp and tr suing haymon already? must mean theyre on the right track? haha

[about.thousands]

If I'm being serious, I would've liked to see Haymon pay guys a lot less for easy fights, keep them active and then pay them more for big fights. Right now he's just paying them big for everything. It's why we have deals where nobody is willing to fight J-Rock, Thurman is dragging his feet to fight Porter, and Danny Garcia's career has stalled after getting big.

What's the reason HBO can't get their fighters to fight? Lomanchenko/Walters are on the same network and same promoter. Cotto/GGG were both on HBO and couldn't get made. GGG/Canelo are on HBO and can't get made. Gonzalez/Estrada is way past due and no sign of being made even though Estrada isn't bound by any network.

Let's take a look at the fights PBC/Haymon have gotten made this year:
Quillin/Jacobs (Haymon on Showtime)
Lee/Quillin
LSC/Mares
Broner/Porter
Huck/Glowacki
Garcia/Peterson
Bute/Degale (Haymon on Showtime)
Dirrell/Degale
Dirrell/Jack
Fonfara/Chavez Jr (Haymon on Showtime)

[about.thousands]

PBC needs a propaganda machine like these other groups seem to have. Now idk all the legalities with how Haymon works how complicated that could or couldn't end up being, but they need a internet show/podcast or something on TV at least covering "this week in PBC action" or something to bring things together a lil better.

Yep. They have no spokesperson. Espinoza does a good job for the fights on Showtime but they desperately need Schaefer.