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  • How can PBC become self-sufficient?

    What do we see now?
    1. Most of the PBC fighters don't try to jump on the wave of popularity after successfull and action-packed fight. Like, Gary Russel Jr. for example had a noticeble knockout win over Gonzales. And whom did he fight next? The same TBAs! And this is the case for the most Haymon boxers.
    2. Most boxers fight too seldom - 2 times a year. I can understand if such stars as Manny Pacquiao or Miguel Cotto fight 2 times a year, but even Danny Garcia isn't that popular to fight so seldom.
    3. Many fighters are overpayed. How can undercard fighter Peter Quillin receive 1.5 million dollars? It's ridicuilos!

    On the one hand Haymon doesn't try to increase a popularity of his fighters, on the ther hand he is constantly overpaying them. And most fights are broadcasted by free TV. I can't see PBC becoming as popular, as UFC, and UFC consumes roughly 10 times less money.
    So, the question is, how can PBC become self-sufficient? What do you think?

  • #2
    Start by paying guys their market value, which will be 1/10th of what they're currently making. Then they'll be hungry enough to start taking real fights.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
      Start by paying guys their market value, which will be 1/10th of what they're currently making. Then they'll be hungry enough to start taking real fights.
      Then PBC will become another ESPN. All fighters will be back again on cable channels.

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      • #4
        After the time buys are over, Haymon can probably secure a decent deal with one or two of the networks, where they will pay for the fights.

        However, despite Haymon's unmatched ability to get networks to overpay, he probably won't be able to this time.

        Then he could have a nice series on ESPN or NBC for probably one card per month, and then go back to showtime for his other fighters. And yes, the fighters will be paid much less.

        But he will have to let go of 80% of his fighters to achieve this. Otherwise, there will simply be no dates for them.

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        • #5
          Weekly show on the same channel, same time every week.. That's how you build an audience.. Not random channels, days, times..

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          • #6
            PBC is destined to die.

            They have burned 200 million and have accomplished nothing. It's actually getting worse as time goes by for them.

            Haymon doesn't care, if PBC dies, the fighters are still signed to him, he loses nothing, and he's basically paying himself with his investors $. The man is nothing but a thief, except he does it while telling you, it's for your own good.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shpacman View Post
              What do we see now?
              1. Most of the PBC fighters don't try to jump on the wave of popularity after successfull and action-packed fight. Like, Gary Russel Jr. for example had a noticeble knockout win over Gonzales. And whom did he fight next? The same TBAs! And this is the case for the most Haymon boxers.

              3. Many fighters are overpayed. How can undercard fighter Peter Quillin receive 1.5 million dollars? It's ridicuilos!

              On the one hand Haymon doesn't try to increase a popularity of his fighters, on the ther hand he is constantly overpaying them.

              So, the question is, how can PBC become self-sufficient? What do you think?
              Sponsorship is the way, no? I think that's what was assumed from the business model.

              Haymon's still acting more like a manager than a promoter. No idea what he's trying to achieve tbh.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shpacman View Post
                Then PBC will become another ESPN. All fighters will be back again on cable channels.
                If I'm being serious, I would've liked to see Haymon pay guys a lot less for easy fights, keep them active and then pay them more for big fights. Right now he's just paying them big for everything. It's why we have deals where nobody is willing to fight J-Rock, Thurman is dragging his feet to fight Porter, and Danny Garcia's career has stalled after getting big.

                The great fighters of past generations never would've developed if they received title fight money doing their tune-ups. They pushed themselves to be great and dreamed of taking chances to prove themselves to earn a great reward.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                  Sponsorship is the way, no? I think that's what was assumed from the business model.

                  Haymon's still acting more like a manager than a promoter
                  . No idea what he's trying to achieve tbh.
                  He is a manager.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                    Sponsorship is the way, no? I think that's what was assumed from the business model.

                    Haymon's still acting more like a manager than a promoter. No idea what he's trying to achieve tbh.
                    You need to develop a desirable product before you can get good sponsorship that'll pay those fighters comparable to what they were getting on HBO/Showtime. It's taken the UFC a decade to secure some of the deals they've got today. They kept they're fighters hungry too and reinvested a lot of money back into the company along the way.

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