Will Amir Khan Use Ramadan To Duck Kell Brook AGAIN?

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  • New England
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    #91
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    The answer is yes.

    The reason he didn't take the fight has nothing to do with financials. It's all to do with getting beaten by a guy he doesn't like and ending his hopes of becoming a worldwide celebrity.


    sure ......

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      #92
      Originally posted by New England
      sure ......
      Do you think he sees anywhere near $5m from a Floyd Mayweather fight?

      That's what he was offered for Brook BEFORE Brook beat Porter for the world title.

      Unless you're Pacquiao, Cotto or Canelo, you aren't seeing anything above $3m for a Floyd fight.

      The Brook fight could earn him in excess of $10m now.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Do you think he sees anywhere near $5m from a Floyd Mayweather fight?

        That's what he was offered for Brook BEFORE Brook beat Porter for the world title.

        Unless you're Pacquiao, Cotto or Canelo, you aren't seeing anything above $3m for a Floyd fight.

        The Brook fight could earn him in excess of $10m now.

        berto earned 4 million according to my sources. he's a haymon fighter, and it looked like he was promised / was being groomed for the floyd fight several times but blew it. PPV % are rarely, if ever disclosed to the degree that i'm confident about them. ortiz reported making 5 million + from the mayweather fight, etc, in spite of a 2 million garantee.

        i don't think it's unreasonable to assume that khan will earn more for a garantee than berto would, or a bigger percentage of the buys. he'd also bring UK money to the table.


        you're also not addressing taxes, which are often the difference between a viable entity and one you want to shy away from. khan and brook are going to be paying 45% if they fight in the UK. i don't think khan's on the hook for 45% back to england if he fights in vegas, but i'm not an accountant in the UK. businesses and individuals in vegas pay no state income tax. federal [national] income tax rates are very low. vegas taxes uniquely. they nail tourists with a high sales tax, hospitality tax, liquor tax, etc. income for businesses and individuals is untouched.

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          #94
          Originally posted by New England
          berto earned 4 million according to my sources. he's a haymon fighter, and it looked like he was promised / was being groomed for the floyd fight several times but blew it. PPV % are rarely, if ever disclosed to the degree that i'm confident about them. ortiz reported making 5 million + from the mayweather fight, etc, in spite of a 2 million garantee.

          i don't think it's unreasonable to assume that khan will earn more for a garantee than berto would, or a bigger percentage of the buys. he'd also bring UK money to the table.


          you're also not addressing taxes, which are often the difference between a viable entity and one you want to shy away from. khan and brook are going to be paying 45% if they fight in the UK. i don't think khan's on the hook for 45% back to england if he fights in vegas, but i'm not an accountant in the UK. businesses and individuals in vegas pay no state income tax. federal [national] income tax rates are very low. vegas taxes uniquely. they nail tourists with a high sales tax, hospitality tax, liquor tax, etc. income for businesses and individuals is untouched.
          Berto is Floyd's homie. Maidana earned $1.5m base purse for the first Floyd fight. Ortiz, Guerrero etc earned around $3m. Khan would get around the same plus some UK money - Floyd would probably take a significant cut from that doe.

          Khan himself has admitted the Brook fight would earn him more money. I don't know what you're arguing here

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            #95
            He will. Ramadan is a religious holiday after all and faith is his number #1 priority. People need to stop giving dates during this period....period. Does Khan duck Brook is a different question altogether and the answer to that is....






























            yes, so ****ing badly.

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              #96
              Originally posted by MeiXiang
              He will. Ramadan is a religious holiday after all and faith is his number #1 priority. People need to stop giving dates during this period....period. Does Khan duck Brook is a different question altogether and the answer to that is....






























              yes, so ****ing badly.
              Are negotiations even under way? Hearn mentioned a few months back that he agreed with Khan on the idea that Brook should fight 1 or 2 big names before a Khan fight is recognisable...in that time brook has fought no one of note.

              Not to mention, June is not viable for Khan, which is ok, there's still May, if there's a real negotiation, then the date can not be set in stone. Personally, I'd prefer Khan v Bradley next year and then Khan v Brook, in the mean time Brook can fight a better level of opponent.

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                #97
                Originally posted by MeiXiang
                He will. Ramadan is a religious holiday after all and faith is his number #1 priority. People need to stop giving dates during this period....period.
                It's not during Ramadan though. Khan has fought a week or so before Ramadan in the past.

                It's only recently he's started to come out with the excuse that he needs "time to prepare" for Ramadan. Ironically around the same time the Brook fight was offered to him.


                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                Are negotiations even under way? Hearn mentioned a few months back that he agreed with Khan on the idea that Brook should fight 1 or 2 big names before a Khan fight is recognisable...in that time brook has fought no one of note.

                Not to mention, June is not viable for Khan, which is ok, there's still May, if there's a real negotiation, then the date can not be set in stone. Personally, I'd prefer Khan v Bradley next year and then Khan v Brook, in the mean time Brook can fight a better level of opponent.
                Hearn has sent them projections for a Wembley show on June 4th.

                If Team Khan can come up with a counter-proposal for May then they should.

                Somehow I doubt they will.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor
                  Are negotiations even under way? Hearn mentioned a few months back that he agreed with Khan on the idea that Brook should fight 1 or 2 big names before a Khan fight is recognisable...in that time brook has fought no one of note.

                  Not to mention, June is not viable for Khan, which is ok, there's still May, if there's a real negotiation, then the date can not be set in stone. Personally, I'd prefer Khan v Bradley next year and then Khan v Brook, in the mean time Brook can fight a better level of opponent.
                  Negotiations are supposedly under way but haven't they been in those since Brook was still a Domestic fighter? It's not gonna happen, period. I used to think Khan would easily take care of Brook - complete u-turn now.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Berto is Floyd's homie. Maidana earned $1.5m base purse for the first Floyd fight. Ortiz, Guerrero etc earned around $3m. Khan would get around the same plus some UK money - Floyd would probably take a significant cut from that doe.

                    Khan himself has admitted the Brook fight would earn him more money. I don't know what you're arguing here


                    khan himself said he had one of the best chins in boxing. he's not an airtight source for information



                    according to what i'm looking at for UK pop press sources, manny and floyd did 700K in uk PPV, which is pretty substantial considering that froch and groves did 900 in the rematch, and that's considered one of the biggest british fights ever. that says a lot about the drawing power of floyd mayweather in the UK and on ppv. it indicates that he'd be entitled to some of the UK ppv, but he's not entitled to all of it. that represents a very significant source of revenue in addition to a guarantee that would, without a doubt, be higher than berto's 4 million [taxed in nevada, BTW.]

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by MeiXiang
                      Negotiations are supposedly under way but haven't they been in those since Brook was still a Domestic fighter? It's not gonna happen, period. I used to think Khan would easily take care of Brook - complete u-turn now.
                      The fights bound to happen, there's too much money and Khan knows he may no longer get the May or Pac fights, so this is the only money fight left, outside of Bradley (feasible) or Cotto (unrealistic).

                      Whether or not it's summer 2016 is the only issue.

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