The REAL reason people pick Golovkin over Canelo

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  • Lester Tutor
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    #31
    Originally posted by -Kev-
    It's an example of how a fighter who has not yet grown into a weight class can end up being bad. Canelo started at 140 like Cotto. And like Cotto, he would look fat at full 160.
    Again that's another bad example. We are specifically talking about the size of Saul Alvarez and his debut legacy along with titles. I don't care what Cotto looks like. The whole boxing world knows how small Cotto is in general, especially when we talk 160. About looking, "fat" or assuming Alvarez's potential is premature. Nobody is going to deny that Alvarez's resume is already respectable. Alvarez will easily make 160 and who knows he might look buff like a Curtis Stevens... We just don't know, just make realistic comparisons, not Cotto or Oscar.

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    • Dip_Slide
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      #32
      Originally posted by Red Cyclone
      What is the right way?
      You're all acting like he is tiny the guy is huge on the fight night, he'd have absolutely ZERO problem making weight and would no doubt hit 180lbs on night of the fight he is likely another Chavez Jr in the making with his weight.
      You don't gain muscle overnight, the 15-20 lbs Canelo rehydrates is only water weight, the right thing for Canelo is to grow into 160 lbs within next year, also when you move up in weight you have to adjust your style because all the parameters are different, you are heavier, could be a bit slower and your opponents are bigger, stronger with more power than the ones you're accustomed to facing, so in addition to growing physically, you also have to adjust your fighting style a bit, which can't be done over night.

      Like I previously said, the WBC should grow a pair and strip Canelo from that paper title and give it to the man who deserves it which is GGG. GGG however can for once fight at a disadvantage to make himself the star he wants to be and accept a catchweight against Canelo, but before that he should be handed the belt and he should be the one deciding whether or not the title should be on the line in the catchweight fight.
      Last edited by Dip_Slide; 12-09-2015, 10:46 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Dip_Slide
        You don't gain muscle overnight, the 15-20 lbs Canelo rehydrates is only water weight, the right thing for Canelo is to grow into 160 lbs within next year, also when you move up in weight you have to adjust your style because all the parameters are different, you are heavier, could be a bit slower and your opponents are bigger, stronger with more power than the ones you're accustomed to facing, so in addition to growing physically, you also have to adjust your fighting style a bit, which can't be done over night.

        Like I previously said, the WBC should grow a pair and strip Canelo from that paper title and give it to the man who deserves it which is GGG. GGG however can for once fight at a disadvantage to make himself the star he wants to be and accept a catchweight against Canelo, but before that he should be handed the belt and he should be the one deciding whether or not the title should be on the line in the catchweight fight.
        Seems like you're just trying to justify GGG having the WBC belt. first of all muscle mass or any human mass relies on water aside from bone!! It's not like the human reserves channels of water in between whatever you're imagining. Tissue resaturates itself with water to gain general mass so don't look at it as if it's apples to oranges, or worse, you think p4p elite fighters are among the general class and all suffer from moving up in weight. Ironic isn't it? GgG close to mid 30s and he's still floating around 160 because because he wants to unify all the titles, supposedly, and then hopefully later move to 168? At this pace it's nowhere near all time great status, especially with that resume... Just saying

        Personally I think Canelo will transition himself nicely at 160 and hopefully continue to move up. But I feel your frustration about GGG not getting that paper belt.. That has nothing to do with Alvarez's skill. You're referring to politics

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        • OnePunch
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          #34
          Originally posted by Dip_Slide
          You don't gain muscle overnight, the 15-20 lbs Canelo rehydrates is only water weight, the right thing for Canelo is to grow into 160 lbs within next year, also when you move up in weight you have to adjust your style because all the parameters are different, you are heavier, could be a bit slower and your opponents are bigger, stronger with more power than the ones you're accustomed to facing, so in addition to growing physically, you also have to adjust your fighting style a bit, which can't be done over night.

          Like I previously said, the WBC should grow a pair and strip Canelo from that paper title and give it to the man who deserves it which is GGG. GGG however can for once fight at a disadvantage to make himself the star he wants to be and accept a catchweight against Canelo, but before that he should be handed the belt and he should be the one deciding whether or not the title should be on the line in the catchweight fight.

          and maybe next year little canelito will grow into 156, and then the year after maybe 158, and then around 2019 he might could handle 160.

          you guys are pathetic, and should be ashamed of yourselves.

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          • Joe Beamish
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            #35
            I like Golovkin because he has more skills and more power.

            Canelo is okay, but not great. I hope they fight soon, but I really doubt it.

            Everybody knows Alvarez gets stopped. Even he knows it. So no fight.

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            • nivek535
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              #36
              thank you for speaking on behalf of millions of different opinions.
              you are one open minded individual troll hahaha.

              i chose golovkin because he's shown his ring iq...
              while canelo is a march-forward punch-throwing low-fuel-machine... doesnt adapt/learn very well IMO...

              i heard he still cant catch lara to this day lol. (dont get me wrong though, i def think he deserved the win vs lara)

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              • El-blanco
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                #37
                Originally posted by OnePunch
                and maybe next year little canelito will grow into 156, and then the year after maybe 158, and then around 2019 he might could handle 160.

                you guys are pathetic, and should be ashamed of yourselves.
                most posters on here are a bunch of p@ssies in real life that's why they have all these pathetic excuses.

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                • spanishboxing
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Kim Jong Pimp
                  The real reason that people pick Golovkin over Canelo is because in their eyes, Canelo is a tainted fighter who has already been tainted by a loss to Floyd, the most hated boxer ever.

                  To pick Canelo over Golovkin would mean indirectly picking Floyd (who beat Canelo) over Golovkin, and that is unacceptable and unthinkable to these people who view Golovkin as the last hope, the only one who was never tainted by Floyd.

                  Realistically, Canelo vs Golovkin could go either way, and in another year or two Canelo should even have the advantage. By destroying Geale, Cotto proved how weak Golovkin's opponents have been, and Canelo ate Cotto's shots like candy.

                  The truth is the truth!
                  Ur delusional w da floyd theory.. canelo is a one 1dimensional fighter with overrated power..he looks great vs small stationary targets at 154 155...what has Canelo learn since da Floyd fight.. nothing..he looked da same vs Cotto..canelo ate small Cotto punches yes.. but small Cotto ate Canelo punches..what does that say about Canelo power..there's nothing on Canelo boxing skills da says he beats GGG. .only chances he has is if he makes it tru 12 Rds n gets a GiFT.. that's all..n in 2 3 yrs still be same results..what advantage will he have?..u actually believe da hype about Canelo future improvement. .how he's still young n will improve..how long does it take to learn how to cut da ring off n lack of uses off da jab....even Chino learned to after da Alexander fight just to give Floyd a worth for his $..ones Canelo fights guys his size he will get da Chávez jr treatment n get KO TKO. .he has a chin vs small 154 at 155..

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                  • Baracka Flocka
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                    #39
                    Realistically the best way to beat GGG is through decent pop and footwork.
                    Canelo isn't going to fare well against a game GGG with sized and a splicing jab. No doubt Canelo can box, however he won't **** with GGG. at least not now.

                    Canelo is VERY young, I say 3 years from now I'd favor Canelo. Right now however, this fight is all wrong for him.

                    Canelo really hasn't even been a real middleweight yet to honest.

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                    • M Bison
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                      #40
                      Just for everyone... so you say Canelo is small for the weight you can gain 1-3lbs of dry muscle per month so that's like 2/3 months for him to make such a small gain lol.

                      Excuses, excuses If you see what Canelo looked like against Canelo you'd clearly understand Canelo is more than ready for 160.

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