"Remember, Remember, the 8th of December"

[Zaroku]

Agreed. I was genuinely concerned for a few minutes. Nobody wants to see that in the ring, or anywhere for that matter.

I took a knee when I saw that horrific KO. It is only now, that Manny is fine enough to make tight sock excuses that I can enjoy it! But even now, 3 years later it is shocking. I though he was dead.

[Johnwoo8686]

I'm not accusing Marquez of drinking protein shakes and taking vitamins, it's a well known fact.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/10...est-meal-ever/

“When he was at the track at 6 a.m. doing exercises, he drank a protein shake from my line of supplements created with a formula for athletes available at Ringside Promotions. These were mixed with water or lactose-free milk within 30 minutes of completing a workout,” Heredia explains

It appears as though you two geniuses are having trouble understanding the difference between a supplement and a drug.

So now a protein shake is a performance enhancer? LOL get the hell out of here. Its a supplement and that is all. You can get at the grocery store. How do you know Marquez didn't use protein shakes when he fought Floyd? Do you have any proof he didn't? No you don't

[IR0NFIST]

If you took the time to actually research "performance enhancing supplements" you would know that protein shakes fall under that category. Furthermore, Heredia clearly stated in the article that he introduced Marquez to science-based nutrition. Which implies that Marquez wasn't drinking protein shakes prior to working with him. This is why he was on 24/7 knocking back a glass of urine post workout instead of a protein shake.

[Mr. Philadel]

Great night

Sick!!!!

CRAZY fight!!...I was happy for Marquez because I felt like he CLEARLY won the third fight but was robbed

[STAX ON DECK]

If you took the time to actually research "performance enhancing supplements" you would know that protein shakes fall under that category. Furthermore, Heredia clearly stated in the article that he introduced Marquez to science-based nutrition. Which implies that Marquez wasn't drinking protein shakes and relied on urine for his post workout recovery.

yep,just too bad that it was marquez who wanted testing but it was pac who ultimately turned it down aint it??

but it still dont change the fact that roach said himself that ariza used to give pac "su****ious substances" and "secret shake mixes"

pac fans STILL havent recovered

[IR0NFIST]

yep,just too bad that it was marquez who wanted testing but it was pac who ultimately turned it down aint it??

but it still dont change the fact that roach said himself that ariza used to give pac "su****ious substances" and "secret shake mixes"

pac fans STILL havent recovered

Neither camp requested additional drug testing for the 4th fight. Get your facts straight. Speaking of Ariza, he's working with Floyd now, correct? How ironic.

[Johnwoo8686]

If you took the time to actually research "performance enhancing supplements" you would know that protein shakes fall under that category. Furthermore, Heredia clearly stated in the article that he introduced Marquez to science-based nutrition. Which implies that Marquez wasn't drinking protein shakes prior to working with him. This is why he was on 24/7 knocking back a glass of urine post workout instead of a protein shake.

Heredia can say whatever he wants to say. Marquez has been winning fights before Heredia ever came on the scene. I don't care how much protein a guy consumes father time is still father time. Once a fighter is past the age of 35 they have to get a special physical just to get relicensed to fight. The version that Pacquiao fought looked stiffer and slower than the one who fought Floyd years earlier. But his punching power definitely increased.

The point is Pacquiao needed four tries across four different weight classes, with different referees and different judges and NEVER could beat Marquez clearly. While Floyd did it his first time after a two year layoff. Marquez is never an easy fight for anybody no matter what the weight was but Floyd made him look easy.

Come on man, I've seen you point out Floyd's skills on numerous occasions. Why continue arguing?

[Slip Stream]

What really stands out in my mind the night Manny was iced, was the look of shock on my buddy's face. He is one of the those Manny fans that isn't simply "die hard" he practically swears that Manny's nut sweat raises the dead. So to watch him squirm in utter disbelief was not only gratifying but tremendously healing. I would no longer have to hear him talk about how invincible a guy is who had lost before to decidedly beatable opponents....

[Zaroku]

There was his Pinoy Pan base talking about the Manny going up to light HW!
Not sure but lots of ****** crap about no limit to his Pinoy power. But..... But .... Then!!!!

Wait.......

Wait.......

Kaboom! KTFO, more dead than alive. The Pinoy nation destroyed, oh my gad. Their lil gad, got crushed! KO of the year right???? Did that really happen to the Manny????
Did fans scream OMGAD! Did other fans rejoice while the 'myth buster' Marquez demonstrated proper counter punching.

His hard core fans wanna pretend it didn't happen. In real time, or watching in slow motion, he got KTFO! A crushing defeat! He got Mexicuted by a Mexican, from Ciudad Mexico D.F. Mexican style!!!!! Viva Mexico!!! Viva Mexico!!!!

Viva Zaroku, repopulating the country!!!! Viva zaroku!!! Siempre!!!

[IR0NFIST]

Heredia can say whatever he wants to say. Marquez has been winning fights before Heredia ever came on the scene. I don't care how much protein a guy consumes father time is still father time. Once a fighter is past the age of 35 they have to get a special physical just to get relicensed to fight. The version that Pacquiao fought looked stiffer and slower than the one who fought Floyd years earlier. But his punching power definitely increased.

The point is Pacquiao needed four tries across four different weight classes, with different referees and different judges and NEVER could beat Marquez clearly. While Floyd did it his first time after a two year layoff. Marquez is never an easy fight for anybody no matter what the weight was but Floyd made him look easy.

Come on man, I've seen you point out Floyd's skills on numerous occasions. Why continue arguing?

The point completely flew over your head, is the concept of "styles make fights" really that difficult for you to comprehend? Marquez simply doesn't match-up well with Floyd. Not only that, he was also the smaller guy jumping up two divisions, without a proven S&C coach, and fighting at a weight that his body hasn't acclimated to yet.

To further prove my point, Bradley made Marquez look easy, but was beaten decisively by Pacquiao, who was KO'ed by Marquez. This is also why Floyd looked anything but dominant when he fought Pacquiao. You're comparing apples and oranges and making a fool out of yourself. Here's a suggestion, take off your Floyd nuthugger goggles and try thinking from an objective point of view, it might help you see the error in your logic.