Comments Thread For: Jacobs: I Don’t Fear Golovkin, I Just Want Fair Money

[Fetta]

right, because executives of publicly traded companies are going to lie about 53k buys........LOL

Yes!! 53K buys is the difference between almost 3 mil more and a bag of chips...maybe a soda in there too

[OnePunch]

Your Math is wrong also. Can you find it yourself? It is obvious just from looking at it LOL

he's only off a half-million bucks.

but he's on the GGG hate squad, so it doesnt matter lol

[Fetta]

he's only off a half-million bucks.

but he's on the GGG hate squad, so it doesnt matter lol

Please stop talking about numbers. Itll just confuse you more

[Dr Rumack]

What position do you hold to tell a professional boxer what his "reasonable" pay should be?

I'm not. I'm asking that exact question. My point is that what's 'reasonable' can only fairly be assessed on the basis of what the market has typically paid for similar type of match-ups. I don't see how any 'fair' minded person could possibly object to that.

[j0zef]

Yes, there are some that are going to do that. There are also posters that are giving it to GGG fans that created this crazy logic when they were Manny fans. This is NSB.

For the rest of us it is simply wanting to see if he can apply those skills and beat better caliber opponents. If he does, he will get full credit. If he doesn't, its fair to ask people to ratchet the hyperbole down a bit.

That's great, but the issue is that most of 'you' live in a dream world. In your eyes, the only way for Golovkin to 'prove' himself is to f$cked over one way or another.

You want him to fight Ward? Great, he's gonna give up 3 inches, 20 lbs, must do it NOW (apparently) but still has to wait for Ward's tuneups.

You want him to be the first fighter in 10+ years to unify MW? Great, he should bend over backwards and get drained 5 lbs. If he unifies MW at 160 it's unfair.

You want him to give up all his dreams and fight DeGale? Excellent. Are you gonna make a phone call to Haymon to see how that negotiation is gonna go?

Assuming Haymon is ok with putting his protection services on hold and letting someone (Degale/Lara/Quillin/Jacobs) fight Golovkin, you want GGG to put his relationship with HBO in jeopardy for that fight? And then end up with nothing after HBO cuts their ties with him?

You think that Golovkin's mandatory status vs. Canelo doesn't mean anything 'bc who cares about them belts', but you think that he should be stripped if WBA makes Jacobs their mandatory? It's only fair, right?


I'm not saying you're the one who has argued for all of these points, but ALL of these (and other ridiculous nonsense) are widely spread on NSB for why Golovkin is overrated, yadda yadda yadda.

[The Big Dunn]

Maybe the issue is both GGG and Jacobs get paid more than they should. It will be tough to put this fight on PPV. given the poor sales of GGG/Lemueix and that Jacobs isn't a huge name.

The fight could be sold by talking about Jacobs beating cancer, but that feel scummy.

Maybe the best bet is to let it go to a purse bid, but HBO will only block it because they do not have the resources.

So either both Jacobs and GGG come off their purse expectations or the fight doesn't look like it will get made.

[OnePunch]

That's great, but the issue is that most of 'you' live in a dream world. In your eyes, the only way for Golovkin to 'prove' himself is to f$cked over one way or another.

You want him to fight Ward? Great, he's gonna give up 3 inches, 20 lbs, must do it NOW (apparently) but still has to wait for Ward's tuneups.

You want him to be the first fighter in 10+ years to unify MW? Great, he should bend over backwards and get drained 5 lbs. If he unifies MW at 160 it's unfair.

You want him to give up all his dreams and fight DeGale? Excellent. Are you gonna make a phone call to Haymon to see how that negotiation is gonna go?

Assuming Haymon is ok with putting his protection services on hold and letting someone (Degale/Lara/Quillin/Jacobs) fight Golovkin, you want GGG to put his relationship with HBO in jeopardy for that fight? And then end up with nothing after HBO cuts their ties with him?

You think that Golovkin's mandatory status vs. Canelo doesn't mean anything 'bc who cares about them belts', but you think that he should be stripped if WBA makes Jacobs their mandatory? It's only fair, right?


I'm not saying you're the one who has argued for all of these points, but ALL of these (and other ridiculous nonsense) are widely spread on NSB for why Golovkin is overrated, yadda yadda yadda.

^^^ excellent post

[OnePunch]

Maybe the issue is both GGG and Jacobs get paid more than they should. It will be tough to put this fight on PPV. given the poor sales of GGG/Lemueix and that Jacobs isn't a huge name.

The fight could be sold by talking about Jacobs beating cancer, but that feel scummy.

Maybe the best bet is to let it go to a purse bid, but HBO will only block it because they do not have the resources.

So either both Jacobs and GGG come off their purse expectations or the fight doesn't look like it will get made.

they have the resources, but unlike Haymon, its actually THEIR money, and they are probably not willing to lose $5 million on an event just to prove a point.

And who says it would only be HBO doing the cack-blocking? Who is to say that if K2 won the bid, that Haymon wouldnt pull a Quillin-Korobov and vacate the title? Its not like he hasnt done it before

[The Big Dunn]

That's great, but the issue is that most of 'you' live in a dream world. In your eyes, the only way for Golovkin to 'prove' himself is to f$cked over one way or another.

You want him to fight Ward? Great, he's gonna give up 3 inches, 20 lbs, must do it NOW (apparently) but still has to wait for Ward's tuneups.

You want him to be the first fighter in 10+ years to unify MW? Great, he should bend over backwards and get drained 5 lbs. If he unifies MW at 160 it's unfair.

You want him to give up all his dreams and fight DeGale? Excellent. Are you gonna make a phone call to Haymon to see how that negotiation is gonna go?

Assuming Haymon is ok with putting his protection services on hold and letting someone (Degale/Lara/Quillin/Jacobs) fight Golovkin, you want GGG to put his relationship with HBO in jeopardy for that fight? And then end up with nothing after HBO cuts their ties with him?

You think that Golovkin's mandatory status vs. Canelo doesn't mean anything 'bc who cares about them belts', but you think that he should be stripped if WBA makes Jacobs their mandatory? It's only fair, right?


I'm not saying you're the one who has argued for all of these points, but ALL of these (and other ridiculous nonsense) are widely spread on NSB for why Golovkin is overrated, yadda yadda yadda.

dude, stop crying FFS. A lot of boxers were in position to get f-cked but they overcame it and won. If GGG can do it like them only then does he deserve to be held in the same regard.

You and some of his fans want all of us to treat him like an ATG when he hasn't earned it.

Its disgusting, and shows a complete lack of historical knowledge of the sport, that you and others think GGG is somehow being treated differently.

Yeah, he may get f-cked a lil bit. Boo f-cking hoo. Go cry to Kov, who got shorted in England against Bellew. Ask Floyd or Manny, when ODH took a sh-tload of the dough for himself. Ask Larry Holmes when he had to split 50/50 with Cooney just because he was the GWH. Ask Bhop, who had to go to 157 for ODH, or sweet pea who fought chavez at 145. Ask Cotto or Canelo.

You need more examples?

GTFOH and stop this incessant whining and crying about GGG being made to go through the same thing that countless others have.

[The Big Dunn]

they have the resources, but unlike Haymon, its actually THEIR money, and they are probably not willing to lose $5 million on an event just to prove a point.

And who says it would only be HBO doing the cack-blocking? Who is to say that if K2 won the bid, that Haymon wouldnt pull a Quillin-Korobov and vacate the title? Its not like he hasnt done it before

Don't be mad Haymon is better at getting resources than others. Maybe K2 would win the bid, so lets go to bid and do it then.