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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostGGG's resume and actions relative to choosing opponents diminishes him, not any poster that points this out.
Everyone points out that fighters avoided GGG. The only difference is the opinions on his choices after he is avoided.
GGG fans like you and ex Manny slurpers like twosweethooks justify the choices GGG makes and try to deflect to either race or opinions on what might happen to avoid discussing what actually DID happen.
It is ok to call GGG on his hypocrisy and the poor resume.
lol GTFOH
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The fact is, GGG's handlers have backed him into a corner with their nonsense and now, he doesn't have a lotta attractive options. They didn't wanna fight Ward. Which in terms of legacy, was currently the biggest fight for Gennady. They claim they won't fight Canelo at a catchweight. Which is probably the best option on the table for GGG. His little "unification" campaign bombed its ass off with Lemieux. So Jacobs is likely a far more attractive option for the Lee-Saunders winner, and visa versa. And seeing how SHO picked up Lee-Saunders, that appears to be the next move anyway. At this point, Gennady can either swallow his pride and fight Canelo at 155. Or, fight a mandatory that only he and his 97K fans care about.
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Originally posted by Fetta View PostNo they want to fight him but its no wonder why they all bring money up. They know.
Furthermore, GGG fights on HBO, a company that has to satisfy a bottom line and turn a profit on boxing. Otherwise the network will dump it as they have other things to put on the air. So, it's kind of funny to hear people bring up purses that RocN or PBC guys are getting compared to the HBO fighters. You think Ward's $2 mil purse to fight Smith in front of 300k on BET made that fight a money maker or was Roc bankrolling the event? Was Jacobs' purse to fight Quillen covered by the revenue generated by the fight, or was it subsidized by the Haymon Hedge Fund? Honestly.
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Originally posted by hitking View PostThe fact is, GGG's handlers have backed him into a corner with their nonsense and now, he doesn't have a lotta attractive options. They didn't wanna fight Ward. Which in terms of legacy, was currently the biggest fight for Gennady. They claim they won't fight Canelo at a catchweight. Which is probably the best option on the table for GGG. His little "unification" campaign bombed its ass off with Lemieux. So Jacobs is likely a far more attractive option for the Lee-Saunders winner, and visa versa. And seeing how SHO picked up Lee-Saunders, that appears to be the next move anyway. At this point, Gennady can either swallow his pride and fight Canelo at 155. Or, fight a mandatory that only he and his 97K fans care about.
anyway...your bolded statement makes no sense. except for the likely possibility that Haymon will overpay Jacobs and the winner of Lee/Saunders. there is more exposure and critical success to be gained by beating GGG, than Jacobs. if Lee/Saunders beat Jacobs. very next question will be about GGG. if they beat GGG, the first question will be about Canelo.
also...Jacobs can't even sell out Barclays in a fight between two "locals"
meanwhile, two foreigners sold out the Garden, largely on the back of GGG or "mr. 97k" as folks of your ilk are wont to do.
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Originally posted by OnePunch View Postso who exactly did Quillin fight? Ndam?? Rosado??? old Wink??
lol GTFOH
you easily go through another fighters resume with a fine tooth comb but not with GGG. On top of that, you get mad when someone examines GGG resume like you just did Quillin.
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Originally posted by bug0092 View PostThey know alright... they bring $$$ up because they know they're going to take a beating. If they thought they had a good chance, they'd be willing to take far less. Monroe Jr took a shot at winning the sweepstakes by accepting $100k in what was a stay busy fight for GGG. He lost. He could've held out for more, but he knew a win over GGG gives him belts and status that'd be worth far more than any purse he could've negotiated. Lemieux got a pretty good split for the PPV because he brought something to the table other guys haven't. He had something GGG wanted...when other opponents bring those things, they'll see a greater share of the purse.
Furthermore, GGG fights on HBO, a company that has to satisfy a bottom line and turn a profit on boxing. Otherwise the network will dump it as they have other things to put on the air. So, it's kind of funny to hear people bring up purses that RocN or PBC guys are getting compared to the HBO fighters. You think Ward's $2 mil purse to fight Smith in front of 300k on BET made that fight a money maker or was Roc bankrolling the event? Was Jacobs' purse to fight Quillen covered by the revenue generated by the fight, or was it subsidized by the Haymon Hedge Fund? Honestly.
Honestly do you really think GGG bomb made them money? I mean since you are the one bringing it up. I dont think for one second it did but oh well thats on them. GGG needs the names and fighters. Gotta pay or pay another "Monroe" for 100K.
Now that you can find funny and laugh if you want.
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Originally posted by bug0092 View PostThey know alright... they bring $$$ up because they know they're going to take a beating. If they thought they had a good chance, they'd be willing to take far less. Monroe Jr took a shot at winning the sweepstakes by accepting $100k in what was a stay busy fight for GGG. He lost. He could've held out for more, but he knew a win over GGG gives him belts and status that'd be worth far more than any purse he could've negotiated. Lemieux got a pretty good split for the PPV because he brought something to the table other guys haven't. He had something GGG wanted...when other opponents bring those things, they'll see a greater share of the purse.
Furthermore, GGG fights on HBO, a company that has to satisfy a bottom line and turn a profit on boxing. Otherwise the network will dump it as they have other things to put on the air. So, it's kind of funny to hear people bring up purses that RocN or PBC guys are getting compared to the HBO fighters. You think Ward's $2 mil purse to fight Smith in front of 300k on BET made that fight a money maker or was Roc bankrolling the event? Was Jacobs' purse to fight Quillen covered by the revenue generated by the fight, or was it subsidized by the Haymon Hedge Fund? Honestly.
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Originally posted by hitking View PostThe fact is, GGG's handlers have backed him into a corner with their nonsense and now, he doesn't have a lotta attractive options. They didn't wanna fight Ward. Which in terms of legacy, was currently the biggest fight for Gennady. They claim they won't fight Canelo at a catchweight. Which is probably the best option on the table for GGG. His little "unification" campaign bombed its ass off with Lemieux. So Jacobs is likely a far more attractive option for the Lee-Saunders winner, and visa versa. And seeing how SHO picked up Lee-Saunders, that appears to be the next move anyway. At this point, Gennady can either swallow his pride and fight Canelo at 155. Or, fight a mandatory that only he and his 97K fans care about.
GGG is in fine position and will do whatever the hell he feels is in his best interest. IF that means dropping a few to get Canelo in the ring then so be it. Speculation at this point is a waste of time as there are deadlines and events in the next couple of weeks that'll lead to an outcome here. We will know soon enough.
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A month ago these guys said GGG had no options for good wins in the MW division
A month ago these guys said GGG had to fight a LHW because there were no good wins to be had in the MW division, are now saying that Jacobs has beaten better fighters.
When GGG versus Quillin were brought up, they'd say Kid Chocolate drew with Lee, that he wouldn't be a solid win.
Now Jacobs beat him, suddenly that's a career defining win.
Come on!
At best Jacob beat a fighter who was equal to Murray. In reality, Quillin would lose two half of the top ten MW out there. Really, there isn't a top MW that I'd be surprised if they beat Quillin.
Jacob may of propelled himself into the top 5, maybe not.
But GGG has been beating the best MW fighters for years.
And if Jacobs fights GGG (with his asking price I doubt it), will these guys call it a good win if GGG KO'd him in 6.
No! They'd say he was overrated, like they do with each GGG win.
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