Al Haymon and The Porters

[Eff Pandas]

Porter is a nobody. Just another decent boxer with little to no personality. I hate to break that to you. There's no popular market in Porter. That is not hate, it's reality. There's nothing appealing about him except the fact he's a decent boxer and that's just not enough to be a star.

Sorry.

Thats f#cking ******ed. Granted he's not gonna be selling 2 million PPV's, but he can be a draw if he wins the fights. I mean if he just beats Thurman he's increased his status right there. Evander Holyfield was boring as f#ck, but he sold lotsa PPV's back in the day & while never surpassing Tyson in popularity he was still pretty popular. It certainly helps to have a gimmick going for you in boxing, but guys have become popular without Hamed, Fury or Camacho level talk & antics.

[SeekDaGreat]

Thats f#cking ******ed. Granted he's not gonna be selling 2 million PPV's, but he can be a draw if he wins the fights. I mean if he just beats Thurman he's increased his status right there. Evander Holyfield was boring as f#ck, but he sold lotsa PPV's back in the day & while never surpassing Tyson in popularity he was still pretty popular. It certainly helps to have a gimmick going for you in boxing, but guys have become popular without Hamed, Fury or Camacho level talk & antics.

Dude he just won the fight of his life against Broner and nobody outside of a few boxing enthusiasts gives a fuxk. Wake up.

Evander Holyfield was not boring Wvander Holyfield was a superstar before he beat Tyson. He was a unified cruiserweight champion, they had never seen a ****ing freakbof nature like him. He was sculpted like a ****ing Greek god, and had a boxing video game made for him on Sega.

Porter will never sniff those heights. A.) He's not good enough. B.) He has NOTHING appealing about him. He's one of MANY talented boxers. He does nothing that stands out, inside or outside the ring.

And I like Porter. I follow him on IG. He seems like a great guy.

[mathed]

Bottom line is Porter got the rest of them PBC boys shook!!

[Scipio2009]

Porter is a nobody. Just another decent boxer with little to no personality. I hate to break that to you. There's no popular market in Porter. That is not hate, it's reality. There's nothing appealing about him except the fact he's a decent boxer and that's just not enough to be a star.

Sorry, I had to be the one to tell you this. I didn't want to be.

Fair enough, but I disagree. I don't think he boxes well enough to ever be a star (when not blitzing a guy out in two reals, Porter's 'rough and rumble' style is some of the ugliest boxing I've ever seen), but you can't hold his personality against him (Kenny Porter being overbearing, in spots, does hurt though). I've never seen Shawn Porter give what would constitute a bad interview, and the more people see him not giving bad interviews, the more people will pick up on him.

There's always a market for the "clean-cut, good guy"; for Porter, it's simply going to take him unifying the titles to get that opportunity.

[Scipio2009]

Thats f#cking ******ed. Granted he's not gonna be selling 2 million PPV's, but he can be a draw if he wins the fights. I mean if he just beats Thurman he's increased his status right there. Evander Holyfield was boring as f#ck, but he sold lotsa PPV's back in the day & while never surpassing Tyson in popularity he was still pretty popular. It certainly helps to have a gimmick going for you in boxing, but guys have become popular without Hamed, Fury or Camacho level talk & antics.

^^^^^^this

[Scipio2009]

Dude he just won the fight of his life against Broner and nobody outside of a few boxing enthusiasts gives a fuxk. Wake up.

Evander Holyfield was not boring Wvander Holyfield was a superstar before he beat Tyson. He was a unified cruiserweight champion, they had never seen a ****ing freakbof nature like him. He was sculpted like a ****ing Greek god, and had a boxing video game made for him on Sega.

Porter will never sniff those heights. A.) He's not good enough. B.) He has NOTHING appealing about him. He's one of MANY talented boxers. He does nothing that stands out, inside or outside the ring.

And I like Porter. I follow him on IG. He seems like a great guy.

Heading into the Broner fight, Porter was the guy who just got schooled by Kell Brook; the Broner fight gave him an opportunity to clear that, so to speak (which he lost a bit on, after getting knocked down the moment it seemed like Broner tried to fight).

Porter is back to being about where he was before the Brook fight, sans being undefeated and having the juice of being a world champion (heightening the reward side of any risk/reward decision).

If Porter is able to knock off Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia (I think he ends up winning the WBC title tournament), and beat Kell Brook in a rematch; Shawn Porter is "king of the mountain" in one of boxing's glamour divisions [doubt that he actually does it, but that's the path]

[Boxfan83]

Honestly the thing that makes me not like Haymon is his obvious favortism towards specific fighters. He pays well and brings boxing to sports forefront but it seems like he makes fighters unlikable with theyre obvious accomodations.

[big_james10]

I think it is perfectly understandable that the Porters are frustrated with the direction Shawn's career has been going in the last year or so. Shawn wants big fights against the best opponents available. There is nothing wrong with that.

The problem is two fold:1) first, people don't always get what they want regardless of what profession they are in. Simpy because you ask for something or have been promised something or have been chasing after a fight for a long time and are doing everything right to get it, things are not always going to work out the way you want; and

2) Unlike Porter, not every fighter is interested in fighting the best opponents available. Every fighter claims publically that they will fight anyone, but that is not and has never been the case. In today's era, fighters and their handlers fight as many easy fights as they can get away with to protect their records and t heir belts. In spite of what he says, Golovkin does not want to fight Ward; Amir Khan does not want to fight Kell Brook; Thurman does not want to fight Porter, Errol Spence or anyone else in the welterweight division that could possible make him look bad. So, therefore, I have heard that he is trying to get a match with Chris Algieri. Typical.

[Ray*]

I can't believe the Porter Thurman fight isn't sorted out yet, and the fact that the normally talkative Thurman is silent on all front, makes it a bit strange. I think you are right on all front with this thread.

[Mr. Philadel]

just wondering what the final purpose was to OPs time consuming research on this topic

about 10 minutes max....no research was needed....I'm a FULL TIME fight fan homie!!...believe that!!