Al Haymon and The Porters

[Mr. Philadel]

First of all, I respect and admire the father and son team of Shawn and Kenny....I also LOVE the job that Uncle Al is doing....I'm a fan of the PBC and I hope it continues to grow and stick around until the end of time....WAR UNCLE AL

I wanted to make those things CLEAR before I say what I'm about to say...completely unbiased and neutral....I'm just gonna call it like I see it...a spade is ALWAYS a spade in my eyes....IMO it seems like Uncle Al has his favs....I know for sure that AB, Swift, and Floyd are three of his most fav nephews....I think we all can agree on that...what's understood doesn't need to be explained so onto IMO one of his least favs, SHAWN PORTER....the sad part about this is, if anyone ever met the dude then you know I'm 100% accurate when I say Shawn is one of the coolest, nicest boxers in the sport...he might even be the the P4P King in that category...dude is SUPER cool!!!

Now this is what I'm sensing fellas....IMO Kenny is NOT happy with the way his son is being treated by Unc.....I started to pick up on the negative vibe during the Broner-Porter situation....the catchweight was 144 plus one with a rehydration clause of 154 plus one....this is a piece of the interview with Kenny fraom a article on here...I'll post the link as well

"The weight limit is 144-pounds plus a pound, give or take," said Kenny Porter, Shawn's father and trainer who is well aware of the tactics taking place.

"They're trying to bring us down to try to hurt us and they asked for a second-day weigh-in," continued the elder Porter. "The day of the fight we have to weigh-in, again."

Reportedly, neither fighter can weigh-in heavier than 155 pounds on the morning of this bout.

http://www.boxingscene.com/porter-di...r-clash--90969

The key words for me was "THEY'RE and THEY"....who is THEY?!?....Exactly!!.."THEY" is led by Unc....he's the boss so nothing fly without his stamp of approval....another point I think we ALL can agree on!!..."THEY" is led by Unc, who also leads Porter, so why would Unc give one nephew so much at the nego table and treat the other like some no name fighter from a forest in Africa....NOBODY was feeling the extra weigh in clause as I remember due to AB already getting the catchweight plate at the table

Then came the day of the FINAL press conference....the Porters were saying they've yet to see or sign the contract for the fight yet...smh

https://********/4g8Gu4gNJNY?t=1m48s

Then I think it was another issue about Shawn's custom made gloves not being ready...not sure, just going off the top on this one...but eventually that got sorted....now back to the weight, Kenny finally gets the contract sometime between the final presser and the weigh in...when he got the paperwork, there was no rehydration clause in it....he said Unc called him and told him beforehand though

Kenny said they finally received the contract for the fight, and there was no rehydration clause in the language - but he knew that was coming ahead of time because Haymon called him.

"Al called me and told me not to worry about that [the rehydration clause]. He said 'don't listen to what nobody says because you heard it from me,"' Kenny told BoxingScene.com.

http://www.boxingscene.com/team-port...-clause--92547


During the build up to the fight, AB avoided and didn't answer any questions about the rehydration clause....that even pissed Shawn off a little bit....I'm guessing that AB needed Unc to kill the rehydration clause because of his credibility being shot at...or Unc did it himself to save one of his fav nephews credibility....or AB knew he HIMSELF wouldn't make weight at the second weigh in...IMO, it went down in one of those three ways

Jump back to the present....AB lost that fight and has already fought again....FOR A WORLD TITLE....after the Broner win, The Porters flew to NY to stalk my man Swift when he put the beats on Paulie, trying to get a fight....now Swift is scheduled to fight AGAIN...ironically, on the date and the venue Porter-Thurman was rumored to be...remeber, Porter-Thurman been talked about for a while, they even did a faceoff in September out in Vegas at the Expo....now, Shawn is waiting on Thurman without a plan B....in this vid Kenny is saying that the cans Kell Brook been smashing are Uncle Al fighters and he's a little upset about not getting the Kell rematch...you can hear that he's not happy with the way Unc is treating his son



Shawn is almost begging through the media for someone to talk to them about fighting again..."SOMEBODY" would of course be Uncle Al in this case

https://********/TPULoVa9lN4?t=23s

Kenny goes in on the WBC 147 pound Tournament...he's discrediting it due to his son not being mentioned in the Tournament...IMO he has the right to feel some type of way....can't really blame him for feeling that way either



At the end of the day, I hope I'm wrong and I'm OVER ANALYZING this ****....it may or may not be trouble in paradise lol...but I got strong feeling everything is NOT right with The Porters and Unc....links and vids in the post...judge for yourselves!!

[daggum]

haymon did not want porter to beat broner. its obvious. his good but unpopular fighters like porter and lara he tries to appease them by giving them easy fights for big money. this allows his more popular fighters to avoid them and not take losses.

[Eff Pandas]

Holy **** dude you did an essay on this. I wasn't prepared for that. Respect doe, but I'mma read it all later. I think I got the gist of it doe.

I'm certain Haymon has to have guys he's looking out for more than others when you got 200+ fighters. I don't see how that couldn't be the case tbh. Hell some of these guys haven't even met Haymon yet & maybe never will. I would suspect Porter to be higher up on the list doe. Maybe not as high as Broner or Thurman, but high none the less.

I think one of the problems that could cause the Porter's to not have favored nation status with Haymon is they talk to mfing much. Holy **** they talk too much. They honestly talk as much if not more than Broner. And we all know how private Haymon is. So there is a bit of a personality conflict with these two sides I'm sure & thats why they get left out in the cold with some of the facts. To me the Porter's seem like children who keep asking are we there yet. And Haymon or Sam Watson keeps saying we're almost there, but the Porter's are restless. Granted I'm restless with this Thurman fight that seemed to be all but scheduled for Dec. 5 or 12 or Jan. 23 & still doesn't seem to have a date yet, but I'm sure there is something going on that is preventing this date from being found yet, but who f#cking knows what it could be cuz PBC likes to be mysterious & ****.

[SUCIO416]

just wondering what the final purpose was to OPs time consuming research on this topic

[OnePunch]

and that has always been one of my biggest criticisms of Haymons operation. A "manager" has a fiduciary duty to represent the best interests of the fighter, and that is impossible to do when that same "manager" also represents the opponent, because everything negotiated for fighter A comes at the expense of fighter B. Their interests oppose each other.

A perfect example was the Floyd-Maidana glove issue. Anyone who thinks Maidanas interests got represented by his "manager" are out of their minds.

Yet when I mention this conflict Im always called a hater lol

[SeekDaGreat]

Everyone in some fashion, protects their assets. Bronner, was one of Haymons most valuable and most popular assets. Doesn't matter how good they are/aren't, if it brings in the dough, you protect it, and try to build off it.

Shawn Porter, although a talented boxer, is not one of Haymons valuable assets from a marketing/money making stand point. Ironically though, he's probably one of Haymons overall best boxers and can spoil Haynons plans if he's not careful. Porter has the talent to expose Haynons stable.

[daggum]

porter is sentenced to 4 yerars on spike tv vs erik bone for beating broner. you don't do that to al! know your role!

[HanzGruber]

If Kenny and Thurman fight for the wba then there's no need for him to be in the tourney

[OnePunch]

Everyone in some fashion, protects their assets. Bronner, was one of Haymons most valuable and most popular assets. Doesn't matter how good they are/aren't, if it brings in the dough, you protect it, and try to build off it.

Shawn Porter, although a talented boxer, is not one of Haymons valuable assets from a marketing/money making stand point. Ironically though, he's probably one of Haymons overall best boxers and can spoil Haynons plans if he's not careful. Porter has the talent to expose Haynons stable.

Haymon has the EXACT SAME fiduciary duty as a "manager" to Porter that he does to Broner.

[about.thousands]

I agree with almost everything you said except it's not Shawn. It's Kenny. The fans love Shawn.He got the loudest applause out of everybody last night. He needs to step back a lil bit like Angel has with Danny. Angel can still be obnoxious but he's toned it down a lot.