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  • dan_cov
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    #11
    Originally posted by MPX309
    Are you from the UK?, have you seen the program where he talks about his knock outs, and his thought process in the ring? He does seem to pick his shots, and there's more than just braun in there. Granted it's a far cry from the technical expertise of something like Lomachanko, obviously. But yeah, he is basically picking shots, getting his opponents to open up, and trying to land counters over the top etc.

    Yh but I haven't seen that I'd love to give it a watch though if you have a link or know the name of it?

    I do see improvement and think he is one of the best HW prospects I'm just really not buying into he is ready for whoever and all that premature talk. He is still pretty raw and hugely untested. I don't think he should be rushed.
    My criticism is more his lack of fluidity and tendencies (head dead centre, bringing his jab back to his chest).
    Its so hard in this day and age to critique fighters especially HWs where these days you don't need much at all but size and a bit of athleticism. I'm not saying anybody with size can don't get me wrong just you don't particularly need to be a great prospect/fighter in todays HW climate.

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    • MPX309
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      #12
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      Yh but I haven't seen that I'd love to give it a watch though if you have a link or know the name of it?

      I do see improvement and think he is one of the best HW prospects I'm just really not buying into he is ready for whoever and all that premature talk. He is still pretty raw and hugely untested. I don't think he should be rushed.
      My criticism is more his lack of fluidity and tendencies (head dead centre, bringing his jab back to his chest).
      Its so hard in this day and age to critique fighters especially HWs where these days you don't need much at all but size and a bit of athleticism. I'm not saying anybody with size can don't get me wrong just you don't particularly need to be a great prospect/fighter in todays HW climate.
      I watched it on my skybox. It's in the boxing section (lol) in the sports section. You probably need HD skybox with internet.

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      • oscar9992
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        #13
        Wilder just hopes so... cause if he meets Joshua he is gonna get destroyed!

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #14
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          Not sold on Joshua at all I think he is very raw but I see no upset here, Dillian Whyte is shocking.

          Not even sure Whyte would beat Gary Cornish in all honesty.
          I like you Dan but you say some of the most outlandish things. I can't even tell if you're serious.

          You're not sure if Whyte would beat Gary Cornish?

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          • fredhopple
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            #15
            Wilder cannot find England on a Map anywhere

            Wilder thinks England is part of the USA but not not sure where exactly England is located. Wilder has that 3rd grade education which qualifies Wilder as a boxer.

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            • Reverb
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              #16
              I find it tricky to really place much faith in bets on how good up and coming Heavyweights really because,
              A. The way boxing is now, so much emphasis is put on the unbeaten record and so many *fans* are so quick to write fighters off after a defeat.
              B. The field of Heavyweights, it appears to me, has such a wide gulf between the top few and the rest. Which is quite unlike so many other divisions, which have clear levels of opponents with known attributes and strengths. But then, with heavyweights carrying so much punch power, they rack up KO's which in turn, leads to so many guys having KO losses and immediately being trashed as bums, in the current climate. Which is back to point A.
              C. A dynamic and repeatedly successful heavyweight is a cash cow to a promoter. And the promoter requires a lot of money from promotions to fund the bigger fights down the line. Boxing is after all a business and, an expensive one at that.

              So, given those points I get frustrated at some fans who should know better , yet still expect everyone to throw their guy in at the top, when they have experience to gain and funds to gather as they go. I agree, it is a fine line between progress in the sport and greed, but everyone holds back because a rising fighter gets trashed so quickly when they lose to someone.
              It doesn't surprise me to watch heavyweights fighting (what some consider) nobodies for a while, but the gulf in class is huge and so it takes a lot (for me) to find any real gauge as to how good the up and comers really are.
              Sometimes I think Joshua is a destroyer, other times I wonder where his level truly is, he's got a lot going for him and hasn't put a foot wrong so far but, he is undoubtedly raw and, I can't put my money down on saying he's the next undisputed champion in waiting. There are a lot of unanswered questions but the bigger tests certainly lie a big step above.
              Whyte looks a level below Joshua, I'll say that, but wouldn't put a lot on Joshua not hitting his first real test any time now.

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                #17
                It's difficult to predict imo. Obviously Joshua looks the real deal and Whyte looks a level below. However Joshua has not yet faced anyone who has come to win, Whyte will and i don't recall Joshua ever taking a significant punch. I have huge doubts over his stamina as well. Odds are Joshua knocks him out early, but if Dillian can hang around, it could get very interesting.

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                  #18
                  Denium.
                  I entirely agree, as soon as Joshua runs into an opponent who can hang with the early onslaught, a whole new picture will open up.
                  I'm not gonna bet one way or the other, but no way am I completely sold that Joshua will look quite so devastating when he hits that little step above. Which may or may not be Whyte.

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                  • Ernie Mavers
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by MPX309
                    LOL, Wilder hoping other people do the work so he don't have to again.
                    Exactly, this is wishful thinking. Joshua is the easily the best prospect on the scene, and that includes titleholders. He is the full package. I just wonder about his chin, and his mental toughness.

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                    • joe strong
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                      #20
                      Both guys have proven they can beat good journeymen fighters. Both guys have a lot of question marks. It really is an intriguing fight. One will move forward & the other one back. Joshua is the WBC #2 so he has a lot to lose. In my eyes both are David Prices until they prove otherwise...

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