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What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
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IMHO Wladimir looked ready for the fight, but I think they trained for the wrong Fury, they trained for what they perceived and not what was real. Somehow I think Fury's antics were a tremendous mental distraction from Team Klitschko's plan overall, even so I don't see how the guy would be able to deal with movement going forward?
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Klits a bully and is usually able to do what he wants Stricly because of his size and with the deadly jab he has and then hold on to smaller fighters.
Fury is a bigger man and used feints and movements to neutralize the jab and without that he was left essentially paralyzed in the ring and offered nothing because he couldn't come up with a plan B
Props to Klit for the reign he had but he was / is over rated. It's time for the young fighters to ride the wave
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Originally posted by Slip Stream View PostWlad was utterly paralyzed by movement, he couldn't find the range to hit his target, and given he's a conservative fellow he chose to take no chances in lieu of miracles. The reality is sometimes people lose, it isn't always because of father time or bad waffles, it just happens because the opponent is better at the time. And sometimes as a result boxing fans want to find reasons why people lose, They choose to be polarizing on the way, and argue themselves to a comfortable peace, to a state of mind nicely contrived and free of consequence.
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Fury might have been able to beat peak Wlad. There's no question that he has always struggled with someone who can move like Fury did, and the size would always be a huge obstacle. Plus it's not like we saw Fury give everything he had to, which is the most shocking part of the fight. If he had to give everything against prime Wlad, he might still win.
It was so boring and...I don't want to say easy, but convincing, I guess...because of Wlad's age. His timing and athleticism was off enough to keep him from changing the fight like he may have before.
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Klitschko got old. It happens to everybody.
Look at his face, compare it to ten years ago. All those rigorous training camps he put himself through have finally taken their toll.
Here's a quote thatsums it up well from BoxRec forum (I made the same thread over there):
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=196281
Originally posted by Boxing WriterBeing close to 40 y.o., having 67 pro fights, 3 hard losses (not just one-punch KO losses like Lewis - Wlad got tremendous beating for 3-5 minutes against Puritty, Sanders and Brewtser), and 19-year career. Yeah, he should be in his prime. Was Lennox still fighting at 39? No, he had fought his last fight at 37 and looked past his prime too, even though he had much shorter career (14 years) and 23 less fights than Wlad.
I think Wlad is totally shot now and he looked past his prime since beating Mariusz Wach. His fight with Pianeta was the first one where I noticed the accuracy of his right hand wasn't there anymore. He missed more right hands against Pianeta than he did against much better, much more skilled southpaws - Chris Byrd, Ruslan Chagaev and Tony Thompson. Then there was Povetkin fight, where Wlad looked bad too. Yes, he beat Povetkin easily with his jab, occasional left hooks (and tons of clinches of course), but he just couldn't land his streight right hand at all - he missed some puches in that fight that made me think he was already well past his prime. His right hand accuracy was completely off. Leapai fight didn't say much, cause Leapai is so slow, predictable and his defense is so bad, that even 70 y.o. Wlad would have had no problems landing punches at him.
Year ago before his fight with Kubrat Pulev I wrote here that Pulev will give Wlad his toughest fight in 9+ years. I was wrong, but I still think if Pulev had chosen right tactics, he would give Wlad tons of problems with his jab and movement. But instead of using his advantages Pulev went for the kill and got knocked down 3 times and brutally KO'ed - all 4 times he went to the deck after Wlad's left hook. Even in that fight Wlad's right hand wasn't effective - he landed only one good right hand in the 3rd round. Then there was a fight with Jennings where Wald's right hand was almost non-existent. And Jennings looked much faster than Wald.
Wlad’s handspeed and accuracy are completely gone. He reminds me Holyfield and Mosley in the latter parts of their respective career. He sees everything, but just can’t pull the trigger.
BUT! Saying that, Fury should get huge props for this win, even though Wlad is shot. Why? Because he did what others guys couldn’t do. It’s not like Wlad became old overnight, he was getting worse and worse since 2012, but others guys, even top-contenders like Povetkin and Pulev didn’t even come close to dethroning him. Fury fought very smart and disciplined fight, and I think even prime Wlad would have a lot of problems against this in-shape, disciplined version of Tyson Fury.
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