Golovkin is not a risk taker. Simple.

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  • -PBP-
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    #11
    Excellent post. We don't deny his talent. We don't deny his skill. But he wants high reward/low risk fights like every other fighter in boxing. He doesn't have that fire to pursue greatness.

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    • El-blanco
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bardock
      Thats the whole point of the thread, he wants everyone to fight on his terms but doesn't want to take risks if it doesn't benefit him
      the irony. Come on bro. Wanting to fight at the mw limit is all of a sudden on his terms? So what do you call what canelo does?

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        #13
        Originally posted by El-blanco
        I agree about the point on Ward, but you're wrong about his position on canelo at 155. You don't jump at the first opportunity and give into the demand of a spoiled brat who fights within your division. Canelo fights at 155 because he needs to drain guys his own size to gain an advantage. Why exactly would you go to 155 when you're the interim champ, would receive 45% of the purse bid, and it would be at 160? People keep saying ggg needs to fight canelo, but he doesn't. Ggg and his team could humiliate him in the media if he chooses to drop the belt instead of fighting him by the rules like everyone else. That would be a big deal, too.
        Listen, I think the whole idea of 155 is crazy and shouldn't happen. But my point is, you cannot say you will face Floyd at 154 but not Canelo at 155. Clearly Golovkin knows the risk of loosing is higher and therefore doesn't want to fight at 155.

        155 is dumb but that's how it is. He will make weight for the 'easier' guy.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Sterling Archer
          fighting floyd at 154 makes sense.

          career wise, and money wise.

          fighting ward at 168 makes NO SENSE.

          career or financial wise.


          GGG can beat floyd or froch. he's not ready yet for ward. I understand all the political maneuvers of all parties involved. From ward being scared ****less of sergei kovalev and waiting out a middleweight when he has already wiped out his career division while he has huge money and legacy fights awaiting him in his NEXT LOGICAL DIVISION (175 but fears the russian) to GGG knowing he will lose to Ward while waiting out cotto canelo....

          you'd have to be a ****** person not to get any of their career machinations like the TS.
          You've got to be kidding. A Ward win would add legitimacy to his resume. People aren't knocking him because he is a garbage fighter, they are knocking his resume which doesn't have a defining win(and he's 34 and not getting any younger). Ward is signed to fight Kovalev(barring injury or retirement, smh) so how the heck is he scared? He is at least signed to take a risk meanwhile GGG is focused on unifying a division where a former welterweight was the lineal champ, and now a guy who won't fight anyone at the middleweight limit of 160 holds the title. It's a freaking joke bro.

          He's after the cash(like most boxers). He even said he'd still fight Cotto even without the belt. You know why? Cause he wants the money.

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            #15
            Originally posted by PBP.
            Excellent post. We don't deny his talent. We don't deny his skill. But he wants high reward/low risk fights like every other fighter in boxing. He doesn't have that fire to pursue greatness.
            Right. He is an excellent fighter and can beat all guys mentioned, especially Canelo. But great fighters take that risky fight, he needs to.

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            • Bardock
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              #16
              Originally posted by El-blanco
              the irony. Come on bro. Wanting to fight at the mw limit is all of a sudden on his terms? So what do you call what canelo does?
              What about the Golovkin-Froch-Ward fiasco? He will fight him at 160 in September and Golovkin will take another step aside like a good boy

              And Canelo already had to do what Golovkin WON'T DO, twice. First with Floyd then with Cotto

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                #17
                Originally posted by Bozbay
                Listen, I think the whole idea of 155 is crazy and shouldn't happen. But my point is, you cannot say you will face Floyd at 154 but not Canelo at 155. Clearly Golovkin knows the risk of loosing is higher and therefore doesn't want to fight at 155.

                155 is dumb but that's how it is. He will make weight for the 'easier' guy.
                yes, you can say that. Just because you could make 154 for the biggest fight of your life with a guy in a different division, doesn't mean you should go to 155 to fight a guy within your division. It's not necessary and you'd be giving into the demands of a diva if you did that. Some people still have self-respect. I'd be willing to make concessions to a guy in a different divisions but not a guy within my own. You guys on here keep pointing the finger at the wrong guy in this particular situation.

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                • SterlingStained
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bardock
                  Thats the whole point of the thread, he wants everyone to fight on his terms but doesn't want to take risks if it doesn't benefit him
                  Originally posted by Bozbay
                  So what you are saying pretty much supports my point. He knows he can beat Froch and Floyd and is therefore willing to make weight. He knows he will struggle more against Canelo and Ward and doesn't want to make weight for them.

                  FYI, Ward and The Krusher have signed a deal to fight fall next year. Ward doesn't care about Golovkin, he offered the fight and they said no.
                  professional boxers take risks whenever they do their job, not just on fight night but during preparations for fight night.

                  the whole point of your thread is to bash GGG and say he doesnt take risk which is false considering he fights for a living. Ward has name recognition ON HIS RESUME, he has beaten noteworthy fighters which means he is afforded a certain amount during any negotiations with any fighter.

                  GGG doesnt have that, and hasnt really proven himself which will happen if he stays at middleweight. Ward IS ALREADY DONE with 168 and 175 awaits him with legacy and money fights. GGG hasnt fought anybody and has legacy and money fights waiting for him at 160.

                  this isnt rocket science.

                  stop thinking like a fan and put yourself in the professional prize fighters shoes.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bozbay
                    Listen, I think the whole idea of 155 is crazy and shouldn't happen. But my point is, you cannot say you will face Floyd at 154 but not Canelo at 155. Clearly Golovkin knows the risk of loosing is higher and therefore doesn't want to fight at 155.

                    155 is dumb but that's how it is. He will make weight for the 'easier' guy.
                    The 'easier' guy completely schooled the 'harder' guy not that long ago...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bardock
                      What about the Golovkin-Froch-Ward fiasco? He will fight him at 160 in September and Golovkin will take another step aside like a good boy

                      And Canelo already had to do what Golovkin WON'T DO, twice. First with Floyd then with Cotto
                      lol what fiasco?

                      ward and froch fight at a different division than GGG smdh.....

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