Should The IBF Strip Kell Brook of The Belt?

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    #71
    Originally posted by ukbox
    I think Bradley would take it, he's not known to shy away from a fight & has beaten ingle fighter before. Rios would have taken the fight, porter rematch. Peterson would have taken it. FFS Mosley would have taken the fight. They don't want to pay the money for a name but want to sell it as PPV
    Khan can earn 10 mil in his career fighting tune ups, that was the point. Who can Brook fight to earn close to that? Fans are cottoning on to him avoiding risk, u think he'll continue to sell fighting the same quality? How many fights will Brook need to make 10 mil? 15-20?
    The fact you keep talking about Brooks earning potential shows you dont understand the situation. Brook didnt turn down the fight. Khan did.

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      #72
      Originally posted by ukbox
      I think Bradley would take it, he's not known to shy away from a fight & has beaten ingle fighter before. Rios would have taken the fight, porter rematch. Peterson would have taken it. FFS Mosley would have taken the fight. They don't want to pay the money for a name but want to sell it as PPV
      Khan can earn 10 mil in his career fighting tune ups, that was the point. Who can Brook fight to earn close to that? Fans are cottoning on to him avoiding risk, u think he'll continue to sell fighting the same quality? How many fights will Brook need to make 10 mil? 15-20?
      Bradley won't take it if he's getting a bigger fight though.

      Rios didn't take it, he turned it down.

      Peterson and Mosley are not better opponents than Diego Chaves.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Tom Cruise
        The fact you keep talking about Brooks earning potential shows you dont understand the situation. Brook didnt turn down the fight. Khan did.
        The fact is Brooks done *** all to warrant to warrant the payday, he's begging for it & has slagged Khan in an attempt to goad him. Brook's always been jealous of khan. Why should Khan help him out?
        Khan doesn't feel the need to please u or I. He's his own man & learnt at a very young age how fickle UK fan's are.
        He's said countless times that he'll fight Brook if Brook gets some names. If Brook had fought Mosley, Rios, Bradley then kham couldn't say schit..the fight would be bigger in interest & financially. It also lessens the risk to reward for Khan, no shame in potentially losing to a fighter with big names on his record.
        I think I understand it quite well, I just haven't swallowed Hearns spiel like some have.
        Brook has 30+ fights. He's won 1 title : changed promoters, he's on the network that can deliver big fights & has fought *** all..there's a reason for it & u can't keep blaming others

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          #74
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Bradley won't take it if he's getting a bigger fight though.

          Rios didn't take it, he turned it down.

          Peterson and Mosley are not better opponents than Diego Chaves.
          Mosley & Peterson are bigger than chaves of course they are. Peterson beat Khan & fought a good fight with Garcia. Mosley is a legend & is looking for fights, he's seen better days..so had Barrera.
          Who's Chavez beat, how many titles?
          Rios was keen, it was the lowballing & options.
          Bradley would have fought Brook if the money was right. U can't keep excusing Brook & matchroom. Easy to say people are ducking when you dont pay them what they're worth or what a win over them brings your fighter
          Last edited by ukbox; 11-25-2015, 10:14 AM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by ukbox
            Mosley & Peterson are bigger than chaves of course they are. Peterson beat Khan & fought a good fight with Garcia. Mosley is a legend & is looking for fights, he's seen better days..so had Barrera.
            Who's Chavez beat, how many titles?
            Rios was keen, it was the lowballing & options.
            Bradley would have fought Brook if the money was right. U can't keep excusing Brook & matchroom. Easy to say people are ducking when you dongnpay them what they're worth or what a win over them brings your fighter
            Mosley is like 50 years old. He might be a bigger name than Chaves but it would be an absolutely pointless fight. Why would anyone want to see that?!

            Chaves is ranked in the top 10 at Welterweight. I don't even know if Peterson is at 147. Your argument is that Peterson fought good fights against Khan, Garcia at 140. Chaves fought good fights against Bradley, Thurman and Rios at 147.

            It's splitting hairs really between Peterson and Chaves. Neither are huge names but Chaves is a more difficult fight and he's actually a welterweight.

            The money could be good for Bradley but he'd still get offered more in America.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Mosley is like 50 years old. He might be a bigger name than Chaves but it would be an absolutely pointless fight. Why would anyone want to see that?!

              Chaves is ranked in the top 10 at Welterweight. I don't even know if Peterson is at 147. Your argument is that Peterson fought good fights against Khan, Garcia at 140. Chaves fought good fights against Bradley, Thurman and Rios at 147.

              It's splitting hairs really between Peterson and Chaves. Neither are huge names but Chaves is a more difficult fight and he's actually a welterweight.

              The money could be good for Bradley but he'd still get offered more in America.
              People would watch Mosley because the name he carried & what he's done in the sport. That would have sold on PPV in UK, lot more numbers than Chavez. They didn't want to risk losing to him.
              Why's Brook got to fight in UK?
              Chavez is famous for being a nearly man, won nothing. It's only classed as difficult because he's fought better fighters than Brook..but he never got the w
              Fact is they don't want to pay opponents what they worth but are saying its PPV..how come? Brook's not PPV. He hugged porter on the road, porter's said he'd take the rematch, didn't offer it to him though..but they did with Carson Jones
              Last edited by ukbox; 11-25-2015, 10:27 AM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by ukbox
                People would watch Mosley because the name he carried & what he's done in the sport. That would have sold on PPV in UK, lot more numbers than Chavez. They didn't want to risk losing to him.
                Why's Brook got to fight in UK?
                Chavez is famous for being a nearly man, won nothing. It's only classed as difficult because he's fought better fighters than Brook..but he never got the ww
                Fact is they don't want to pay opponents what they worth but are saying its PPV..how come? Brook's not PPV. He hugged porter on the road, porter's said he'd take the rematch, didn't offer it to him though..but they did with Carson Jones
                You're actually pushing a fight with 50 year old Shane Mosley.

                Please stop.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  You're actually pushing a fight with 50 year old Shane Mosley.

                  Please stop.
                  Don't twist schit m8. I'm not into forum games. You wanna act like a daftie go ahead.
                  I'm comparing Mosley as an opponent to frankie gavin etc & how he'd be a name & would sell on ppv

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by ukbox
                    Where's the delusion Numbskull?
                    Khans money is khans money, its fans & knob jockey's like u that are telling him he needs the Brook payday. Logic says its the other way round.
                    10 million means a lot to u, it means a lot to fat Eddie & Brook. It obviously doesn't mean a lot to Khan. Not hard to understand is it? £20 grand might mean a lot to u, others spend it on a bottle of wine with a meal
                    The delusion is that you think 10million dollars doesn't mean a lot to Khan. I don't think I have to say anything else.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by ukbox
                      The fact is Brooks done *** all to warrant to warrant the payday, he's begging for it & has slagged Khan in an attempt to goad him. Brook's always been jealous of khan. Why should Khan help him out?
                      Khan doesn't feel the need to please u or I. He's his own man & learnt at a very young age how fickle UK fan's are.
                      He's said countless times that he'll fight Brook if Brook gets some names. If Brook had fought Mosley, Rios, Bradley then kham couldn't say schit..the fight would be bigger in interest & financially. It also lessens the risk to reward for Khan, no shame in potentially losing to a fighter with big names on his record.
                      I think I understand it quite well, I just haven't swallowed Hearns spiel like some have.
                      Brook has 30+ fights. He's won 1 title : changed promoters, he's on the network that can deliver big fights & has fought *** all..there's a reason for it & u can't keep blaming others
                      I think Wazaa has rejoined the forum

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