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Comments Thread For: Canelo's Trainer To Golovkin: Come To 155, We'll Fight!
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Cotto or Canelo would have fought him at 155. Canelo knows and GGG people argued based on the rules that since it is a mandatory title fight that you can weigh a maximum of 160 not stipulate that the fighter MUST weigh 155. So Canelo will be stripped of the title and Triple G will go onto face the new mandatory.
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Originally posted by North Star View PostIt's not really much of a gamble on Golovkin's side. Canelo can't use size as an excuse and if he is not willing to take step aside money, what's left for Canelo to do? Drop the belt? He does that and it reflects badly on his end. Golovkin will take all belts and will more than likely rule MW, so what would be left for Canelo without the belt?
Canelo can do a rematch with Cotto in NYC. Fight Bradley. Fight Thurman. Alot more fighters moving up would rather fight Saul or GGG for more $$$$$$ anyways. Saul could ****block the sht out of GGG and take all of the up and coming talents. Honetly if he wanted to be a dic. He could give GGG the scraps of anyone he doesn't need to fight and really force GGG to move up in weight. Which I know he never would. He 35 years old in 1 division his whole life. Add his bum resume that might be good for 25 year olds but not a 9 year pro...
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Originally posted by Slowhand View PostAbsolute bull****. GGG doesn´t have to drop one pound, if Canelo wont fight him at 160 the belt will just go to GGG. And then in 2017 Canelo will come to fight GGG at 160 as the challenger, getting far less of the split than he´d be getting right now. At this point GGG has more options than Canelo, like it or not. Unless of course WBC pull another rabbit out of their arses..
The belt means nothing. I doubt Canelo even cares. If GGG wants to pay the sanctioning fee, go ahead.
Canelo will never get less in any scenario. He is the main player in the sport right now, especially if the Cotto fight did over 1 mil.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Postok I saw this. If accurate, that is about 7 times more than GGG's approx. 150k sales.
I understand but precedent shows that GGG is in a rough spot. He and his team can't then say "well I can't make 155 for you Canelo" and be taken seriously given the number of times they openly said they could make 154 with no problem.
Canelo can pay any opponent more than GGG. HBO isn't going to want to lose Canelo since he this sports big name since Floyd left.
I just don't see where GGG has any leverage.
Golovkin said he'd fight Mayweather at 154.
JMM moved up TWO weight classes just to fight Mayweather.
Canelo agreed to go down at a catch weight to fight Mayweather.
If Mayweather offered, there's no fighter that would want to turn him down. It's like winning the lottery...
Anyways, Golovkin can still comfortably make money fighting names at middleweight. Tureano Johnson wants a piece of him, Erisandy Lara's manager is always calling him out on twitter giving me a small amount of hope, Andy Lee sounds like he is down to fight him, and I'm wondering if Quillin might stop ducking since he can get that million $$$ payday.
Also, Eubank Jr. is popular in the UK and could generate some decent $$$. He's also called out and expressed interest at fighting GGG.
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Meant fight Saul over ggg. Heck he could take the Lee fight from GGG if he wanted to. And then who would GGG fight??? He won't but just sayin. This is the fork in the road that could make his career or he can stay a busy, content, can crusher...Never pushing him self. His owns words not mine! 154-168 anyone.
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I remember Abel referencing Ward's comment about dropping to 160 to fight Floyd.....to justify the 164 cw they were trying to negotiate through the pipeline....NOW lets see him reference is OWN comment about being able to make 154 for a fight against Floyd ....you can't make this **** up lol
Doesn't seem like Team Nelo is budging....can't wait to hear what Loeffler counter with....this is gonna be good lol
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Originally posted by ussy View PostLast year or so I've started to be put off boxing, mainly due to ***** **** like this. Ufc fighters have 10x the balls most boxers do.
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Originally posted by about.thousands View PostYou're a smart guy, you know the difference. He was going to to fight Floyd in Floyd's weight class. Canelo is in GGG's weight class. He's the mandatory so there's no reason to have a CW. I hate CW's for titles but if Cotto had won I could understand why Cotto would want a CW, I wouldn't agree with it but I could understand because Cotto is small. Canelo is as big, if not bigger on fight night, than GGG. I think Canelo would do better fighting GGG at 160.
This comes down to simple economics. Canelo is at the top of the food chain. The WBC and HBO, GGG's biggest backers, get more financially from Canelo than GGG. Canelo is also positioned to be the next Vegas "house fighter".
I just do not see how GGG, coming off a PPV that was between 97k-150k (and GBP will know the real number when they are negotiating) has any leverage to get Canelo to move off 155.
Maybe PBP is right and its 157 or so. But I am sure it will not be 160.
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