Why was Mayweather able to back Canelo up?

[deathofaclown]

Because those counters hurt a little bit more than people think. They're not huge shots but if they had nothing on them then guys like Cotto, De La Hoya and Canelo would have just walked through him.

And they're super accurate and fast too. If everytime you're throwing, you're not landing and receiving a counter in the face you will start to hesitate to throw. Once you're not really throwing, then you can be backed up. And Floyd is a lot stronger than people realise i think, it's very rarely you ever see him outmuscled. I'm sure i saw an interview with Mosley where he said he was very surprised how strong Floyd was, much more than he realised from the outside.

[IronDanHamza]

Do you think Cotto lacking a good right hand may have hurt him
?? and i also noticed Cotto smothered a lot of his punches or threw them to far out..it's like he could not get his distance right

He was struggling to get in range because Canelonwas doing a good job of making him miss and stepping out of range.

Canelo's foot movment was very good, still not too quick of feet but his footwork was working well as was his counter punching.

[Nightfall]

Mayweather fanboys like to pretend that the fight wasn't at a catch weight and that Canelo wasn't weight drained lol.

hey canelo fan girl. it was at a catch weight that your boy alvared wanted and mayweather agreed with it. did you watch all access?drained or not,same results

[deathofaclown]

hey canelo fan girl. it was at a catch weight that your boy alvared wanted and mayweather agreed with it. did you watch all access?drained or not,same results

Yeah. There's an article on here where Canelo said he'll fight at 152, before the fight was signed.

Also De La Hoya and Canelo's team were saying the weight is an advantage to him because he will be quicker and less sluggish....

Strange that once he lost, they changed their tune. It's always the case.

Besides, like those 2lbs made a difference. The difference in levels was too great, it was very one sided and it would be again if they fought even at 154-155. Floyd is just too skilled for Canelo, always was and always will be. Canelo has nothing for him.

[FrankieClutch]

Because Canelo really isn't a come forward fighter. For most of the fight, Floyd and Canelo were in the middle of the ring. Stylistically Canelo has no shot in a Floyd match.

Cotto came in with the mindset of boxing and moving so Canelo HAD to come forward. If he knew how to cut off a ring, he would've KO'd Cotto. That's Canelo's biggest flaw.

[mneronava2k]

It's a shame that you always talk about your baby daddy. Your non Floyd posts (which are few and far between) are pretty good.

And, to answer your rhetorical post in a literal fashion:

Floyd is a ring master, he confused Canelo, discouraged him, hit him at will, and had Canelo beat in the mind fairly early in the fight and Floyd did his thing the rest of the fight.

Can we get back to relevant posts now? I feel like every time Canelo has a fight--you post this same thread.

You love Floyd, I get it

[richardt]

Mayweather is one of the best defensive wizards in boxing history. So someone explain to me that if Canelo is not lightning fast, how the hell was he going to time Mayweather enough times to beat him when no one has, even MUCH faster fighters than Canelo??? This fight had nothing to do with weight. The fact that Canelo had to lose a couple more pounds is negated by the fact that he was allowed to gain any weight he wanted after the weigh-in and had a clear physical advantage. That means one thing zeroed out the other and you are left with one fighter who is superior than the other. Why the hell is this so hard for Canelo fans or Floyd haters to understand??? I'll tell you why. Fanboys want to believe in their hearts that things could have been different. It wouldnt have been different then and it wouldnt be different now. One fighter is superior to the other. It doesn't get much ***ing simpler than that. It is what it is. But I'm sure some fans would love it if Floyd would fight Canelo when he is 90 years old so they could say that Canelo was better all along, despite the act that it would be a man in his 70's against a man in his 90's.

But back on point. Part of the delusion is thinking that Mayweather ran. First off, he fought off the ropes and beat Canelo. He fought in the middle of the ring and beat Canelo. He fought backing Canelo up as well. Canelo realized that he would get timed coming in, timed on the outside and was not creative enough to overcome the genius of Floyd, just like all the others.

The other delusion is that Canelo was green. BULLSHT! Canelo was a world champion with a number of title defenses and over 35 fights and he fought the past prime version of Floyd and still lost. So if anyone users the word green then make sure to use the words past prime cause you cant have it just one way to spin the facts. If Canelo was green then he had youth, if Floyd was experienced, then he was also past his best years. Those cancel each other out and you are left with the fact that one fighter was superior to the other.

Speaking of green, I'd like some green please from someone for this wonderful analysis.

[Basco]

PSYOPS, Psychological Operations. Mayweather was able to frustrate Canelo. He made Canelo doubt his skillset which in turn allowed him to take the initiative.

[AllEyesOpen]

Cotto never intended to back him up, he was planning to move and outbox him like he did Margarito in the rematch, but his punches had no effect, there was no way Cotto would have ever knocked Canelo out.

Mayweather stood his ground and controlled the action from round one, and i still don't see Canelo doing any better based on the Cotto fight any time soon.

[SCEN3RY]

that's a good question, Larry. Canelo has had some strange performances....
If only I could play devil's advocate without offending a ******** or ten, I could say, maybe it is because:


1.
Least likely (PED Slander): When he was tested by VADA vs Mosley, past-prime Shane compared his power to that of a welterweight, Floyd Mayweather. When tested by USADA, vs Floyd, he looked less threatening than Robert Guerrero. Unless you argue styles make fights, it at least bears noticing...Canelo > Guerrero, right?

2.
a.) Versus Floyd, he had to squeeze down to 152 - as big as Canelo is it almost certainly had some kind of impact on him. Just because he didn't get pummeled ala Hoya-Pac, doesn't mean the weight didn't effect him.

b.) Canelo was 22 years old, and his best win thus far was a close and unimpressive decision versus Trout. At this point in his career, he was too green for a seasoned vet, let alone the best in the game.

c.) Canelo perhaps employed the dumbest game plan I've ever seen at the elite level, versus Floyd Mayweather. I strongly doubt he would try that **** again in a hypothetical rematch.

3.
a.) Floyd's IV's are more powerful than anyone realizes, but then again he didn't walk down little Pac...

b.) Canelo may have used IV's against Cotto, you don't rehydrate that much while looking completely filled out. Usually when a guy (Brandon Rios, Maidana) rehydrate 15lbs plus, there's an indication of the added weight in their midsection, Canelo was completely proportionately filled out.

Ultimately, I think it was partly weight and Floyd's reach, foot speed, hand speed, and boxing iq being too much for Canelo to ever effectively get into a rhythm of his own....also that **** game plan of waiting, and waiting, as Canelo did.