Why was Mayweather able to back Canelo up?

[Rath]

Floyd never fights at catch weights remember? only Pac

[b00g13man]

Mayweather is one of the best defensive wizards in boxing history. So someone explain to me that if Canelo is not lightning fast, how the hell was he going to time Mayweather enough times to beat him when no one has, even MUCH faster fighters than Canelo??? This fight had nothing to do with weight. The fact that Canelo had to lose a couple more pounds is negated by the fact that he was allowed to gain any weight he wanted after the weigh-in and had a clear physical advantage. That means one thing zeroed out the other and you are left with one fighter who is superior than the other. Why the hell is this so hard for Canelo fans or Floyd haters to understand??? I'll tell you why. Fanboys want to believe in their hearts that things could have been different. It wouldnt have been different then and it wouldnt be different now. One fighter is superior to the other. It doesn't get much ***ing simpler than that. It is what it is. But I'm sure some fans would love it if Floyd would fight Canelo when he is 90 years old so they could say that Canelo was better all along, despite the act that it would be a man in his 70's against a man in his 90's.

But back on point. Part of the delusion is thinking that Mayweather ran. First off, he fought off the ropes and beat Canelo. He fought in the middle of the ring and beat Canelo. He fought backing Canelo up as well. Canelo realized that he would get timed coming in, timed on the outside and was not creative enough to overcome the genius of Floyd, just like all the others.

The other delusion is that Canelo was green. BULLSHT! Canelo was a world champion with a number of title defenses and over 35 fights and he fought the past prime version of Floyd and still lost. So if anyone users the word green then make sure to use the words past prime cause you cant have it just one way to spin the facts. If Canelo was green then he had youth, if Floyd was experienced, then he was also past his best years. Those cancel each other out and you are left with the fact that one fighter was superior to the other.

Speaking of green, I'd like some green please from someone for this wonderful analysis.

Well said.

[SlySlickSmooth]

Floyd made Canelo miss. Discouraged Canelo, he took his pride then his body.

[lopetego]

he backed Drainelo up, not Canelo

Floyd has never fought Canelo

[FeFist]

Mayweather is able to capitalise on openings. If you look at the fight, Cotto didn't really punish Canelo for missing or having an open stance; his offence was predictable in terms of when it would begin and end.

Someone like Mayweather will cause hesitation unless you don't care about getting hit. He causes you to second guess yourself which could lead to backing up when you are concerned about closing openings.

[!! Shawn]

While Cotto could not back him up at all? It is really strange how Cotto could not even close to hurt or make him take a step back

One word. Feints.

[deanrw]

The 152 had nothing to do with it. Floyd being a great fighter vs a Canelo who did not know how to deal with movement and angles.

Saul "Canelo" Alvarez: "It was simple: I couldn't catch him. He was very elusive. He's a great fighter. I did not know how to get him. He is very intelligent. He's got a lot of experience. Honestly, I couldn't find him. In the later rounds, I felt frustrated. I recognize that he beat me. I tried to connect on him, but I just couldn't."

He never complained that he was drained or weak. He just ran into a guy with so much skills that he never saw before. Even though Canelo seems to get better each fight, up until that point the only guy who had boxing skills that he fought was trout, and even that fight is disputed. He to this day still has terrible footwork and it will cost him again.

[Showtime..]

Listen:
1. The weight
2. The game plan
3. The skill disparity
4. The styles
5. The experience

And Cotto did back him up at times.

End Thread.

[daggum]

why do people kill ggg for trying to fight ward at 164? its because they know ward wouldn't be the same fighter and even if ggg did win he wouldn't get that much credit yet when floyd fights canelo at 152 the weight had nothing to do with it? nice consistency there fanatics

[lopetego]

The 152 had nothing to do with it. Floyd being a great fighter vs a Canelo who did not know how to deal with movement and angles.

Saul "Canelo" Alvarez: "It was simple: I couldn't catch him. He was very elusive. He's a great fighter. I did not know how to get him. He is very intelligent. He's got a lot of experience. Honestly, I couldn't find him. In the later rounds, I felt frustrated. I recognize that he beat me. I tried to connect on him, but I just couldn't."

He never complained that he was drained or weak. He just ran into a guy with so much skills that he never saw before. Even though Canelo seems to get better each fight, up until that point the only guy who had boxing skills that he fought was trout, and even that fight is disputed. He to this day still has terrible footwork and it will cost him again.

He has complained a lot more recently.

He's claimed that fighting out of his optimal weight against Floyd was a big mistake that he'll never make again.

FACT: he was weakened and drained. He looked half dead at the weigh in, looked sluggish and weak come fight night. Dont be a ***** nuthugger. this guy cant even make 154, much less a bull**** cw of 152

The cw surely also affected his punch resistance, that's why he had respect for Floyd's powderpuff punches. And still Floyd never stunned or hurt him either

That been said, I dont think the outcome would have been too different even if Canelo was in good shape. at least not with the ****** game plan he brought, trying to outbox Floyd with those cement feet of his. wtf was his trainer thinking