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  • #71
    Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
    Problem #1 - Murray beats Abraham.

    Problem #2 - Murray can't fight in the US. So it'd be either Mexico or the UK.



    If Rameriz wins a title, the Mexican fans would support it. It'd do better than 150k at any rate.


    GGG haters are hell bent on Golovkin fighting Ward, when he's clearly shown he doesn't want that risk/reward yet. If that's all you got against GGG, then I don't see the point of hating on him for something like this because the Ward/Golovkin ship has sailed for now, unless Ward can drop from 175 to 168 like Chad Dawson did.

    Tell me again why Ward didn't offer Golovkin a fight after he signed with Roc Nations in March? Because in October before that he sent the email to HBO to be read after the Rubio fight - "Anyplace, anytime, anywhere".
    as far as the latter, ward fought smith in june, and then they confirmed they sent an offer in july around lemieux, golovkin was fighting monroe in may and then flirted with the froch fight from may-july and hearn and k2 both confirmed talks, in that time span golovkin team made it clear they wouldnt approach a ward fight and threw out 164 50/50. thats what roc nation answered to, unfortunately they didnt approach quick enough and the lemieux fight was made, i wasnt mad at it, it was the right move.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
      Problem #1 - Murray beats Abraham.

      Problem #2 - Murray can't fight in the US. So it'd be either Mexico or the UK.



      If Rameriz wins a title, the Mexican fans would support it. It'd do better than 150k at any rate.


      GGG haters are hell bent on Golovkin fighting Ward, when he's clearly shown he doesn't want that risk/reward yet. If that's all you got against GGG, then I don't see the point of hating on him for something like this because the Ward/Golovkin ship has sailed for now, unless Ward can drop from 175 to 168 like Chad Dawson did.

      Tell me again why Ward didn't offer Golovkin a fight after he signed with Roc Nations in March? Because in October before that he sent the email to HBO to be read after the Rubio fight - "Anyplace, anytime, anywhere".
      Oh yeah I forgot about that Murray thing, it will definitely be in the UK If its Murray's belt why should he have to travel to someone else's home turf to defend his belt assuming he wins it.

      GGG haters are the same guys who defend Floyd for not fighting Khan and so on a guy who was at his weight class then several others, its odds really nobody was asking Floyd to move up to fight 160 and If they did they'd be wrong.
      Floyd doesn't need to move up to weight classes he hasn't fought at yet its his decision just like its Golovkin and Ward's just like it was Floyd decision to take that catchweight against Canelo, Canelo agreed and Floyd did as well, its just constant little boys on here that are constant 24/7 on their period.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        HBO PPV is just the live American TV audience. There is a whole world outside the USA. GGG/Lemieux was televised in over 120 countries worldwide.

        Wlad became one of the biggest names and highest earners in boxing without any HBO PPV at all. No reason to believe that Golovkin couldn't do the same, if necessary.
        No there isnt a reason it cant happen but it hasnt and here in the US he already bombed. And in canada too cause from what i understand those are combined. Hell i think the whole event bombed but oh well. Hes still good fighter though and like i said i like this fight if it happens

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        • #74
          Originally posted by mike1010011 View Post
          No it isn't. But sadly,it would still attract more people than GGG-ward,since Ramirez has the Mexican fan base,while ward has...Oakland..
          golovkin vs ramirez is not a bigger fight than golovkin vs ward

          golovkin vs ward is two former unified olympic medalist whom are undefeated champions in their respective divisions at times. ramirez does not bring that. ramirez hasnt dont much at 168 at this moment and winning a world title at 168 wont mean much to justify him as ppv fight especially if he fights abraham which would be generous if HBO considered it.

          im not gonan stress golovkin vs ward but to say golovkin vs ramirez makes sense is asinine

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          • #75
            Originally posted by youbeight View Post
            youd buy golovkin vs ramirez in 2016?
            It's a long shot to happen, but yeah I would.

            Rameriz fights the Murray/Abraham winner in April/March. Meantime Golovkin needs to be rejected by Alvarez/Cotto, Lee/Saunders, Quillin/Jacobs, Eubank/O'Sullivan, and maybe even Lara.

            TR would probably make this a ppv knowing they could tap into the Mexican market.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by youbeight View Post
              and as far as this list, i can say kovalev ward and froch all fought top level competition when the odds were against them. hell even stevenson did, fighting someone youre a massive favorite against doesnt hold weight to overcoming the odds, thats what ppl reflect on when it comes to making the case for fighters and the legacy conversation.
              Is it GGG's fault that he's the odds favorite against every guy in the division? IT's not even his fautt, if Cotto was in GGG's position, they would say the division is not weak and actually strong.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
                Oh yeah I forgot about that Murray thing, it will definitely be in the UK If its Murray's belt why should he have to travel to someone else's home turf to defend his belt assuming he wins it.

                GGG haters are the same guys who defend Floyd for not fighting Khan and so on a guy who was at his weight class then several others, its odds really nobody was asking Floyd to move up to fight 160 and If they did they'd be wrong.
                Floyd doesn't need to move up to weight classes he hasn't fought at yet its his decision just like its Golovkin and Ward's just like it was Floyd decision to take that catchweight against Canelo, Canelo agreed and Floyd did as well, its just constant little boys on here that are constant 24/7 on their period.
                Yeah, it'll be Hearn/Sky vs Arum/HBO. I could see it going to Mexico, but Hearn might put up big money to keep it in the UK.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
                  It's a long shot to happen, but yeah I would.

                  Rameriz fights the Murray/Abraham winner in April/March. Meantime Golovkin needs to be rejected by Alvarez/Cotto, Lee/Saunders, Quillin/Jacobs, Eubank/O'Sullivan, and maybe even Lara.

                  TR would probably make this a ppv knowing they could tap into the Mexican market.
                  dont lie to yourself, its not a big ppv, unless this is TR ppv show like cotto vs paulie is this hbo regular broadcast, if arum was pushing this and wanted it a ppv vs golovkin, ramirez wouldnt be fighting on trutv and his last fight on HBO wasnt inspiring either. murray/abraham vs ramirez is barely a main event on hbo unless they pair with a golovkin fight say johnson his IBF mandatory, but even then its not a big ppv.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by casheddie View Post
                    Is it GGG's fault that he's the odds favorite against every guy in the division? IT's not even his fautt, if Cotto was in GGG's position, they would say the division is not weak and actually strong.
                    if cotto was 34-0 with 31 KOs, a career middle without a definitive win, and two jr middles were fighting for the lineal title while the rest of his opposition doesnt even wanna hum his name, id say its a weak division.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by youbeight View Post
                      its a hypothetical question, a simple yes or no will do, is ramirez a big ppv fight since theyd only consider 168 for big ppv fights? i never said hes fighting him, just asking a simple question, no need to be defensive.
                      It wouldn't be PPV now. But it would only happen if Ramirez won a world title, which would make a huge difference. And Golovkin, I think, would also be better known by then than he is now.

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