Comments Thread For: Cotto Saw Golovkin's WBC Spot as Financially Motivated

[b00g13man]

But he didn't go back on his deal because he didn't fight for the title. I don't think people understand fully. The deal has to be contingent on sone specific sort of performance, that's how contracts work. The fact that Cotto is not fighting for the belt means Golovkin no longer has to step aside and he should be elevated to full champ as per WBCs own rules, which they apparently have the discretion to choose to follow. When you sue someone for breach of contrsct, you have to shoe actual damage. And that the party breaching caused such damage. Cotto isn't the one causing the damage right now. It's the WBC.

Exactly. It seems pretty straightforward to me.

[aboutfkntime]

laughing at cottostans who think the diva cotto is such a "boss a-side doe" that basic contract law somehow does not apply to him.

The WBC had no right to recognize the WBA champ Golovkin as the WBC middleweight mandatory to Cotto as it is against their own rules..... that is why they don't rank Wladimir Klitschko in their top10 at heavyweight. Also, apparently there was no contract.

[aboutfkntime]

[QUOTE=OnePunch;16245730]yes, I "self-identify" as having enough common sense to determine that GGG in fact, did step aside.

I can also state that 2 + 2 = 4, and I'm not even a math professor.

Here's typical cottostan reasoning:

Cotto statement: "Yes, I agreed to pay GGG the 800k to step aside".

GGG actually stepped aside. So no debate there.

Cottostans: "derrrrrrr, cotto a-side doe dont gotta pay lalalajajajajajajja"/QUOTE]


800k seems ridiculous considering the WBC had no right to recognise Golovkin according to their own rules/regulations. Cotto should keep that money, he EARNED it.

[techliam]

The WBC had no right to recognize the WBA champ Golovkin as the WBC middleweight mandatory to Cotto as it is against their own rules..... that is why they don't rank Wladimir Klitschko in their top10 at heavyweight. Also, apparently there was no contract.

According to their own rules, they don't recognize the WBA champion.

Which is why they don't rank Wladimir Klitschko in their top 10.

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/Rules/WBCRulesandRegulationsJanuary2014.pdf

But..... it looks like either HBO or K2 made it worthwhile for the WBC to conveniently ignore their rules and recognize/rank/install Golovkin as mandatory.

It appears that it was HBO.

Now that you know this, do you care?

Or was my reply as much of a waste of time as your question ?

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Why not check my reply in the other thread? Here you go

I know you're trying to be clever, but the notion that they are somehow breaking their rules by enforcing GGG as mandatory is not correct. Why not actually read (and comprehend) the document you've referenced?

Specifically here:

Special Bout Sanction(s). Under special circumstances, including but not limited to as a bout involving an elite contender, a champion of another organization, a match or tournament that the WBC determines in its sole discretion would be in the best interests of boxing, or any other applicable special circumstance, the WBC may order and/or sanction any such bout, or each associated tournament bout, as either a voluntary or mandatory defense under such terms and conditions as the WBC may impose in its sole discretion, and may order that any such special bout take precedence over and occur prior to any previously designated mandatory defense

As you've clearly misread or misunderstood what the WBC rules mean, i'll explain it to you. A champion of another organisation (like GGG with WBA/IBF) may be designated mandatory under such terms (interim champion with step aside agreements until K2 want to enforce) the WBC sees fit.

Don't like it? Tough, the WBC have broken no rules. Why haven't they done this for Wladimir Klitschko? He probably hasnt requested it to happen, but he's in a position to ask for it. The fact they don't do it often isn't the rule, it's just the norm.

It's one thing to disagree with the politics of the sport, but the fact your entire existence on this forum, and your subsequent ramblings which are proven to be incorrect, are all based on your bias against a certain fighter. That's a desperately sad position to take..

[aboutfkntime]

Do people actually have a problem with WBC making GGG the mandatory? Isn't that a good thing? Who cares if it bent the rules

Dude, you just fully endorsed the WBC breaking THEIR OWN rules.....

So why should you, or me, or Cotto..... take their " rules " seriously ?

I can think of 1.1 million reasons not to.

Cotto knew that was the situation when he agreed to the 800k, so what's the point of crying about it now?

If you endorse the WBC breaking THEIR OWN rules..... don't cry when Cotto does the exact same thing..... Cotto is a legend.

How could you possibly support a corrupt sanctioning body who has been convicted of bribery and corruption over a genuine legend who has given his life to this sport?

Oh, right....... Golovkin fan, right ?

[whitealltrac]

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It was just announced


Cotto 15 millions, Canelo 5 mill plus royalties from whatever the fight makes in MX.

[aboutfkntime]

They didn't even bend their rules. There is absolutely nothing in their rules that would stop them from allowing a WBA champion from fighting an interim WBC champion.

You are completely missing the point !

They did not " allow " Golovkin to fight Cotto, they demanded it.

They installed Golovkin as the WBC mandatory at middleweight.

There is definitely a WBC rule/regulation, that prevents them from recognizing champions who represent the other sanctioning organisations.

Why do you think they don't rank Klitschko in their top10 at heavyweight ?

Why don't they install Klitschko as mandatory to Wilder..... like they installed Golovkin as mandatory to Cotto?

Surprised you didn't know that, it's been that way for decades.....

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/Rules/WBCRulesandRegulationsJanuary2014.pdf

[HeroBando]

It was just announced


Cotto 15 millions, Canelo 5 mill plus royalties from whatever the fight makes in MX.

There ya go, weasel Cotto used the belt to get a lopsided purse split then ditched it

[techliam]

You are completely missing the point !

They did not " allow " Golovkin to fight Cotto, they demanded it.

They installed Golovkin as the WBC mandatory at middleweight.


There is definitely a WBC rule/regulation, that prevents them from recognizing champions who represent the other sanctioning organisations.

Why do you think they don't rank Klitschko in their top10 at heavyweight ?

Why don't they install Klitschko as mandatory to Wilder..... like they installed Golovkin as mandatory to Cotto?

Surprised you didn't know that, it's been that way for decades.....
http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/Rules/WB...anuary2014.pdf

Where? You've posted the link to the rules, so highlight where the rule is?

Btw Golovkin isn't top 10 WBC, he's the interim champion. Other champions are barred from being RANKED in the top 10 (which btw, doesn't include champions, otherwise unifications wouldn't be able to happen), but not barred from being mandatory. It's a rookie mistake, but seriously read the rules you reference. If Wlad wanted to be mandatory, he could well request to be so. His promoter has to formally request it. Like Duva did, until she realised HBO wouldn't bankroll the purse bid...

[aboutfkntime]

The WBC tries in special cases to use its power to force fights that fans want to see, even though it doesn't always work out.

They ranked Kovalev (champ in all 3 other org's) as #1 to Stevenson to try & create an undisputed champion

They also (although it was a gimmicky type of thing but it counts nonetheless) made Manny (champ in a rival org) the mandatory for Floyd's title.

The point is, when there's a big fight that fans wanna see, the WBC always reserves the right to rank another organization's champion.

If Cotto objected to that, he could have dropped the belt a long time ago when they made the winner of Golovkin-Rubio the mandatory.

AND BESIDES, ONLY A ****ING FANBOY ****TARD LIKE YOU WOULD COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT!

IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF CASES, THE *TRUE* "#1 CHALLENGER" TO ANY CHAMPION WILL USUALLY BE A CHAMPION HIMSELF IN ANOTHER ORG.

THATS WHY BOXING FANS WHO ARE ACTUALLY FANS AND NOT A BUNCH OF INTERNET TROLLS NORMALLY LOVE UNIFICATIONS AND/OR FIGHTS THAT MOVE A DIVISION IN THE DIRECTION OF HAVING AN UNDISPUTED CHAMPION

Another fanboy who supports an inconsistent sanctioning organisation who has previously been convicted of bribery and corruption over a fighter who has dedicated his life to this sport.

And you did it because you just looooove you some Golovkin, right ?

Where do they find you people.

The WBC " reserve the right " to do whatever is in their best financial interests at that point in time..... regardless as to how it affects the sport or the fighters..... and if you had been paying attention over the last few decades you may have noticed.

Why do you think the WBC don't rank Klitschko in their top10 at HW ?

Why don't they install Klitschko as mandatory to Wilder..... like they installed Golovkin as mandatory to Cotto?

WHY ?

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