Why is Tim Bradley not more popular then he is

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  • bojangles1987
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    #31
    Originally posted by jvsnypes
    There are multiple reasons why Tim is not beloved. I'll leave race out of it, but who is the last black fighter that was beloved??? Times have changed and the boxing audience has changed. This new breed audience does not quite appreciate or understand the "sweet science" of the sport. So, if they aren't seeing a brawl or KO, then the fighter gets criticized. Secondly, I understand why Tim made the move to Top Rank and HBO, but I think he got much more respect when he fought for Shaw and on Showtime. I think the Showtime network commentators gave Tim a lot more props than the commentators at HBO, and it was the latter that somewhat caused the hatred and confusion in the 1st Pacquiao fight. And lastly, the matchmaking has a lot to do with it. They put C and D class fighters in front of GGG and he KO them as he is suppose to do, and the media makes him a god. He has not fought one opponent on the level of even a Vargas, Chaves, or Provodnikov and he is ranked in the top 5 p4p. Yet Tim has been fighting A, B, and C level fighters his entire career and is not ranked??? There is something seriously wrong with that picture. The media controls the popularity of the fighters in this great sport now. And the media caters to the biggest fan base which are the Hispanics. That's why GGG is called a Mexican style fighter. But the TRUTH always comes to the light, and Bradley will get his due one day. Even if its after he retires.
    Guy named Floyd Mayweather? Remember him?

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    • Johnwoo8686
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      #32
      He is not more liked because there is nothing special about him. He is not particularly fast, he doesn't have much punching power, he has a tendency to fight recklessly when hurt, and he isn't the most charismatic guy out there.

      He's just average all around. I still can't believe there were so many people who gave him a chance against Pacquiao.

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        #33
        Originally posted by bojangles1987
        Guy named Floyd Mayweather? Remember him?
        Floyd Mayweather... beloved???? LMAO. If anything Floyd has become the most successful prize fighter ever due to the amount of hate he gets, not love.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #34
          Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
          Floyd Mayweather... beloved???? LMAO. If anything Floyd has become the most successful prize fighter ever due to the amount of hate he gets, not love.
          You don't sell like Mayweather purely out of hate. He had a huge fanbase that loved him and bought his fights because they liked watching him.

          And he's not the most successful prizefighter ever.

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          • jai mari078
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            #35
            He's not naturally gifted talent wise as a fighter, and in honestly he's not a very exciting fighter. He lacks power and always talks a bigger game than he delivers.

            He get's by on grit and just working hard, but will always struggle with the likes of PAC and other extremely naturally talented fighters.

            Fighters like Rios are tailor made for him because Rios is the same type of grind it out hard working fighter, but he's gonna be right in front of Bradley all night with no real movement and pretty stationary. He should be able to outwork him because he's quicker but I see a pretty boring fight unless Rios can push the action, but he will ALWAYS struggle with the more talented fighters.

            I've NEVER considered him ELITE, very good but not GREAT!!!!! I think he's pretty much hit his ceiling, and can't see him beatin the ELITE 147 in the division. Also, he will NEVER draw fan interest.

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            • alexguiness
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              #36
              Timmy is just too nice a guy.

              He ain't ****** enough doe.

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              • jai mari078
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                #37
                Originally posted by Cinci Champ

                So I been thinking Tim Bradley is a throw back fighter he will literally fight anyone he is tough as nails he never gives up his fights are entertaining as hell so why is this guy not absolutely beloved? The easy answer would be because hes black and while im sure that has something to do with it I think there is far more to it. Other fighters similar to bradley who put their heart soul and even life on the line to stay in and win fights have become beloved, even getting into the hall of fame in some cases because of these reasons. Then it dawned on me the first pac man fight where he got his gift decision. Manny was such a beloved fighter that it instantly killed bradley because in his mind he thought he won and honestly who are we to tell him hes lying he probably truly believes he won but people say because he wont say he lost drop the title all this bs that they hate him when honestly thats ridiculous. Then I started thinking this guy cant catch a break you got the obvious manny 1 and the back lash. Then after that fight he takes on the mostly unknown provonikov and gives one of the most gutsy performances in the last 50 years. After the fight he gets no credit once again and people say he lost there was drama with knockdowns and other things but at the end of the day he earned that victory and all he got was more backlash. His biggest victory was marquez i had him winning but once again more backlash most seem to think marquez won for reasons I cant figure out no matter how many times I watch the fight. The guy cant catch a break. Then there was the fight against chavez he won and they scored it a draw somehow once again taking away a clean victory. Then he dominates Vargas but takes a shot late and fight gets stopped early once again more drama no clean victory even tho he would have won he once again gets no credit. Im just curious what you guys think about all this cause to me bradley is a fighter who cant catch a break. even tho he is a fan friendly fighter who literally puts his life on the line in fights and will fight anyone, the guy is as throw back as it gets but still the guy is not beloved and basically gets no credit even though hes everything people pretend they want in fighters. You would think by now all things considered people would start to back him. Hes not the fastest, strongest, quickest but he has so much heart that it over rides all that. Hes not a KO artist but so what you dont have to get knockouts to be fan friendly. The guy says he wants to fight GGG and honestly I believe him the guy is literally a fighter from 1945. So in saying all this why is he not more beloved? you would think a guy whose fights are that entertaining that cant catch a break would eventually get more fans and become a bigger star at the very least in the boxing world. I personally dont get it and im wondering your guys opinion on it all because Bradley is one of my favorite fighters.
                Him being black has absoulutely nothing to do with him not being popular!!! Look at Terrence Crawford he'a immensely popular and BELOVED, the difference is Crawford has the skill and ability to draw that Bradley doesn't, and Crawford is an excitinbg fighter that delivers.

                Bradley is a hard working, gritty fighter that doesn't have the skill of a Crawford or deliver the excitement Crawford does. Crawford isn't a HUGE personality but his skill makes up for it.

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                • HanzGruber
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by jai mari078
                  He's not naturally gifted talent wise as a fighter, and in honestly he's not a very exciting fighter. He lacks power and always talks a bigger game than he delivers.

                  He get's by on grit and just working hard, but will always struggle with the likes of PAC and other extremely naturally talented fighters.

                  Fighters like Rios are tailor made for him because Rios is the same type of grind it out hard working fighter, but he's gonna be right in front of Bradley all night with no real movement and pretty stationary. He should be able to outwork him because he's quicker but I see a pretty boring fight unless Rios can push the action, but he will ALWAYS struggle with the more talented fighters.

                  I've NEVER considered him ELITE, very good but not GREAT!!!!! I think he's pretty much hit his ceiling, and can't see him beatin the ELITE 147 in the division. Also, he will NEVER draw fan interest.
                  Marquez was elite wasn't he?

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                  • jai mari078
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by HanzGruber
                    Marquez was elite wasn't he?
                    Marquez was skilled but he was also getting on the older side. I'm talking about the prime elite guys at 147 as of now. He had a decent run, but to me he's hit his ceiling and that's about it.

                    Also, some of the ugly fights he's had against lesser opponents don't help him either.

                    Like I said he's good not great! He's just a hard working fighter, with no personality and not extremely skilled he just tries to work harder than everyone else and that's only gonna get you so far.

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                    • elgu
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                      #40
                      1. He got the gift against Pacquiao.
                      2. No punching power.
                      3. No personality.
                      4. Uses a style that doesn't suit him.

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